Tommy B.
08-14-2001, 09:53 AM
Just wanted to throw another log on the fire, which is "burning" around the Muzzy Zero Effect Rest. About a year ago, I heard about this "new fangled Muzzy Rest that costs an arm and 2 legs". The theory on this rest, which other companies are picking up on, is "get the durn rest out of the way of the arrow as soon as possible".There will be less opportunity for twisting or grabbing your bow handle when you release the arrow, also known as "torquing". Fletching contact (the most common problem with shoot-through rests) will also be eliminated. This theory made sense to me so I began to investigate it a little further.
The Muzzy rest has a pivoting arm with a hook shaped arrow-rest on it. This pivoting arm, looking somethink like your arm and elbow, attaches to a cable slide. When the bow is drawn the arrow rises into position, picking up your arrow in the process. When the arrow is released, the cable slide comes forward as usual and causes the rest to drop completely out of the way. The arrow only touches the rest for, at most, a couple of inches and then the rest is, in effect, gone, out of the way, causing "zero effect" on your arrow flight.
I discovered another rest made by Savage Archery called the Quiet Draw, another drop away style rest. There are others on the market, but I will discuss only my experience with the Savage and Muzzy rests. The theory with the Savage rest is: Hold the arrow up until the arrow is released and then drop the laucher arms down to the arrow shelf upon release, taking the rest out of the way of the arrow (no contact with the arrow for the majority of the strings path forward, upon release). The Savage rests looks like most shoot-through, prong-type (TM Hunter) rests that most release shooters use. The prongs, or launcher arms as they are commonly known, are attached to a pivoting axle which has another arm which runs parallel to the outside of the rest mount, on the outside of the bow. The outside arm holds a magnetic piece of metal. There is a small magnetic disk, looks like a small watch battery, mounted on the bottom of the rest mount, near where the rest is bolted to the bow. This magnetic disk and magnetic material on the outside arm hold the arrow rest in the ready-to-shoot position until the arrow is released. A spring is used to support the weight of the arrow, keeping the mag.disk and outside arm together, until the shot. The vibration of the release causes the magnetic connection to be broken and the spring pulls the launcher arms down to the arrow shelf.
I bought the Savage Quiet Draw drop away rest because the Muzzy was about $100 at the time; the Savage cost me $35 at Cabela's in Owatonna,MN so I figured that, if it worked I would be $65 bucks better than the Muzzy.
I took home the Savage and put it on my bow (Darton Yukon XT with CPS system), aligned for center-shot, and after about 5 shots I had perfect paper tears at about 10 ft. and figured that I was good to go. The most time consuming part of the set-up was getting the spring tension on the drop-away arm correct, so the arrow rest would support the arrow shaft throughout drawing the bow and then drop as soon as possible when the arrow is released. One problem that was consistent was the arrow falling off the rest when drawing the bow. Savage states that you can spread the launcher arms farther apart to help this become eliminated, which I did, but still had the problem. This was possibly operator error as I forgot to say that I am not perfect. I did notice that I was having fletching contact on the tips of the launcher arms. I never did get this eliminated with this rest. Unfortunately, when I was shooting about my 60th shot the magnetic disk came unglued! Luckily it stayed on the drop-away arm, otherwise it would have fallen into the grass, never to be seen again. I contacted Savage and they said I could clean up the mount and re-glue the mag.disk with Super Glue or 2-part Epoxy and the rest would be as good as new.
I went out a few days later and bought the Muzzy Zero Effect Rest. I set it up and it is working properly, as shown on the video and literature that Muzzy provides with the rest. Is it a better rest than the Savage Quiet Draw? I won't say which is a "better" rest. I will say this: The Muzzy was difficult to set-up in comparison to the Savage. Once it was set-up, my fixed-blade broadhead accuracy and consistency improved noticeably with the Muzzy. One other change that I had made recently was to take off my overdraw, in order to shoot a longer, in my opinion, more stable arrow. I tried the shorter, lighter arrows, shooting them right along side the longer arrows and the impact points where almost exactly the same and flight was excellent on both. This impressed me. From my experimentation, the theory of the Muzzy Zero Effect rest "holds water", in that I HAVE experienced more consistent arrow flight (with broadheads) and accuracy because of the rest dropping out of the arrows path very shortly after arrow-release. Also, the rest design keeps the arrow on the rest, unless you tip the bow almost completely upside down!
My opinion, yeah everybody's got one, is it's better to spend more money if you will be gaining confidence in a product, due to higher quality and dependability. What would I recommend? Spend the money on the Muzzy. It's worth it.
Tommy B.
The Muzzy rest has a pivoting arm with a hook shaped arrow-rest on it. This pivoting arm, looking somethink like your arm and elbow, attaches to a cable slide. When the bow is drawn the arrow rises into position, picking up your arrow in the process. When the arrow is released, the cable slide comes forward as usual and causes the rest to drop completely out of the way. The arrow only touches the rest for, at most, a couple of inches and then the rest is, in effect, gone, out of the way, causing "zero effect" on your arrow flight.
I discovered another rest made by Savage Archery called the Quiet Draw, another drop away style rest. There are others on the market, but I will discuss only my experience with the Savage and Muzzy rests. The theory with the Savage rest is: Hold the arrow up until the arrow is released and then drop the laucher arms down to the arrow shelf upon release, taking the rest out of the way of the arrow (no contact with the arrow for the majority of the strings path forward, upon release). The Savage rests looks like most shoot-through, prong-type (TM Hunter) rests that most release shooters use. The prongs, or launcher arms as they are commonly known, are attached to a pivoting axle which has another arm which runs parallel to the outside of the rest mount, on the outside of the bow. The outside arm holds a magnetic piece of metal. There is a small magnetic disk, looks like a small watch battery, mounted on the bottom of the rest mount, near where the rest is bolted to the bow. This magnetic disk and magnetic material on the outside arm hold the arrow rest in the ready-to-shoot position until the arrow is released. A spring is used to support the weight of the arrow, keeping the mag.disk and outside arm together, until the shot. The vibration of the release causes the magnetic connection to be broken and the spring pulls the launcher arms down to the arrow shelf.
I bought the Savage Quiet Draw drop away rest because the Muzzy was about $100 at the time; the Savage cost me $35 at Cabela's in Owatonna,MN so I figured that, if it worked I would be $65 bucks better than the Muzzy.
I took home the Savage and put it on my bow (Darton Yukon XT with CPS system), aligned for center-shot, and after about 5 shots I had perfect paper tears at about 10 ft. and figured that I was good to go. The most time consuming part of the set-up was getting the spring tension on the drop-away arm correct, so the arrow rest would support the arrow shaft throughout drawing the bow and then drop as soon as possible when the arrow is released. One problem that was consistent was the arrow falling off the rest when drawing the bow. Savage states that you can spread the launcher arms farther apart to help this become eliminated, which I did, but still had the problem. This was possibly operator error as I forgot to say that I am not perfect. I did notice that I was having fletching contact on the tips of the launcher arms. I never did get this eliminated with this rest. Unfortunately, when I was shooting about my 60th shot the magnetic disk came unglued! Luckily it stayed on the drop-away arm, otherwise it would have fallen into the grass, never to be seen again. I contacted Savage and they said I could clean up the mount and re-glue the mag.disk with Super Glue or 2-part Epoxy and the rest would be as good as new.
I went out a few days later and bought the Muzzy Zero Effect Rest. I set it up and it is working properly, as shown on the video and literature that Muzzy provides with the rest. Is it a better rest than the Savage Quiet Draw? I won't say which is a "better" rest. I will say this: The Muzzy was difficult to set-up in comparison to the Savage. Once it was set-up, my fixed-blade broadhead accuracy and consistency improved noticeably with the Muzzy. One other change that I had made recently was to take off my overdraw, in order to shoot a longer, in my opinion, more stable arrow. I tried the shorter, lighter arrows, shooting them right along side the longer arrows and the impact points where almost exactly the same and flight was excellent on both. This impressed me. From my experimentation, the theory of the Muzzy Zero Effect rest "holds water", in that I HAVE experienced more consistent arrow flight (with broadheads) and accuracy because of the rest dropping out of the arrows path very shortly after arrow-release. Also, the rest design keeps the arrow on the rest, unless you tip the bow almost completely upside down!
My opinion, yeah everybody's got one, is it's better to spend more money if you will be gaining confidence in a product, due to higher quality and dependability. What would I recommend? Spend the money on the Muzzy. It's worth it.
Tommy B.