Big Buck Roadkill...

[Lilred]

Fella that works with hubby, his father hit this monster day fore yesterday. Green scored at 198 or so...he is a horse! I was surprised they still got horns this late...maybe the warm weather??
Taxidermist offered him 1 grand fer the head and he turned him down! Whata goober lol

[skeet]

If'n I ran into that ol deer and somebody offered me a grand...It woulda been adios to that sucker. I mean it ain't like he shot the darn thing.:D

[jmarriott]

Maybe the deductible on the truck was 1000 and he wants to make a bit of cash. a 200 pound deer can do a lot of damage to a truck. Skeet i would have taken the 10 crisp clean 100 bills into the pocket myself also.

[gd357]

Not to be an idiot... BUT, he made the right call. If the deer is in the 190's, the rack is worth more than that to collectors. Can't remember exactly what their value is, but it's at least several times what he was offered.

gd

[gd357]

Here's what I found after some research.

Typical Antlers
170 Up to $1000
171-174 $1000 - $2000
175-179 $2000 - $4000
180-184 $4000 - $6000
185-190 $6000 - $10,000
191-195 $10,000 - $15,000
196-200 $15,000 - $25,000
200+ $25,000 +


Non-typical Antlers
195 Up to $1500
196-205 $1500 - $2500
206-215 $2500 - $4500
216-225 $4500 - $7000
226-235 $7000 - $10000
236-245 $10000 - $17,500
246-255 $17,500 - $22,000
256-265 $22,500 - $25,000
266-275 $25,000 - $35,000
276-285 $35,000 - $45,000
286-295 $45,000 - $50,000
295-300 $50,000 - $60,000
300+ $60,000+

(2005 Data)

This may have changed since then, but it's a ballpark figure.

gd

[fabsroman]

Honestly, people are out of their minds. If I knew that antlers fetched such a high price, I would have been out hunting a lot more than I did this year. I honestly cannot believe that people are willing to pay that kind of money for these things.

As far as the taxidermist is concerned, he should have an ethics problem offering to buy a mount from a client, but maybe ethics only apply to attorneys, CPA's, doctors, etc. I could never even offer to go into business with a client of mine, or even loan money to a client of mine, without ending up disbarred.

By the way, I might just start breeding deer and injecting them with whatever will get their horns to grow. At those prices, I should be able to make some money.

[Lilred]

Fabs,
if you'll be my lawyer...I'll beat him up and take the rack from him and we'll split the money LOL

Good lord ...I'm gonna raise me some deer...hell we'd never have to work again! People aint got the sense God give a good rock...dam straight...:rolleyes:

[gd357]

Guys, of course people are crazy... I don't know why anyone would want a set of antlers around that they didn't get themselves. Much less pay thousands for a big set.:rolleyes: But that's assuming that people act rationally.:D

gd

[Lilred]

well...how much would ya pay fer this set? this was another road kill here...it's insane...bet that feller sold his!
LOL

[gd357]

That one looks vaguely familiar. I've seen it before but can't remember where.

gd

[skeet]

If it is real...I'm gonna start night hunting. Think I can make a fair livin at that deer horn game. Ohio Has some really big bucks doesn't it??:D Speakin of night hunting...the kids down the road have gotta stop. I can't sleep some nights!:D

[fabsroman]

gd357,

Just because somebody didn't actually get the animal themselves, but paid for the antlers instead, doesn't mean they won't tell all their friends, family, and acquaintences that they hunted that deer in the great cold of Canada or Alaska. Not everybody is honest.

Before this thread, I would have had to debate really hard on whether or not to mount a deer that I hit with my car. Now, after seeing those prices, I'm going to hit the accelerator when I see a buck in the road and I'm going to sell the antlers. Good thing my brothers work at a body shop. LOL

[gd357]

fabs,

good point. BTW, I see some body work needed in the future...:D

gd

[Lilred]

gd,
I got that pic emailed to me from a friend who says it was killed in VA...but i dont know nothin else about that deer.
The first one however, I know allll bout that un lol..and I have to apologize to that man fer callin him a goober, too.
Here's a goober: i got full coverage on that dodge pickup...looks like i got me a moonlightin job LOL
:rolleyes:

[Nulle]

The way the Game Fish and Parks has it set up in South Dakota is that if the animal has a certain $ value it belongs to the State. In a nut shell: If you get caught taking horns ect they may arrest you.

[skeet]

If ya pick up a critter that ya hit with a vehicle..I think they consider it poaching. There are dead critters every where!

[fabsroman]

Skeet,

In Maryland you are allowed to keep the deer if you hit it with your vehicle, even if it is outside of hunting season. I need a large 4x4 to run the fields next year. LOL

[fishnfrank]

It might just be me and i'm not saying anyone is lying, but.....I think i'm raising the BS flag on the scoring of that first deer at 198 ish. I have seen a lot of 190 to 200 class deer and that does not look like one to me. Don't crucify me on this please, I just am trying to state an opinion. Either way, nice deer though.

[skeet]

I knew a guy up the road from me in Md who kept an ear peeled for deer strikes on the radio so he could go get some free meat. The cops just told him to take them. Not in Wyoming though..they'll lock your butt up for takin a dead critter...even a pheasant or a coon(skunks too):D

[Nulle]

I guess it depends on the officer again and some are pretty strict.
They at times will let you keep the animal if hit by your car and there is know $ amount of the antlers. I never needed blood soaked meat that bad I guess. Even a small hit on a deer messes them up big time.

[skeet]

I've gotten a couple that weren't too bad. If ya get them right away they can be taken care of. Most of the ones I picked up I saw get hit and usually just took the meat off the unhit side. Got a really big doe once that had just been hit in the head by the mirror on the car. Destroyed the mirror and the deer just never even moved. DRT. Saw it happen and I'm glad I wasn't the one to hit it. I woulda probably hit the darn thing dead center!!:rolleyes:

[Lilred]

Here you an keep the animal...I've only hit one deer and I had it's t-loin fer supper the followin nite..lol..I hit it in winter in the rear. Lost one rear quarter, but the rest was fine. They say hittin a deer vs. shootin it taints the meat...while i agree it does taste different, if ya let em "bleed out" it aint so bad. At least mine wont.

Frank, you might be right, I'm not sure of who scored it er nothin, but hubby said the base of the horns were big round as a beer can. Hubby might be a yankee, but he aint no exaggerator. ;)
I'm assumin that a road killed deer is legal fer the record books?
I'm usin hole-in-the-horn as my reference.
if they give him a "official" score, I'll post it..I aint real good at judgin no deer.

[Lilred]

I aint got the sense god give a rock...i meant to add this pic to my last post...lol...anyway...here's another pic iffin it helps..

[petey]

190" 8 point? Not calling anyone a Josh'r but it takes a monster of an 8 to make 150. Pictures never do a deer justice anyhow, so ya never know, but I'd guess him to be high 140's to low 150's.

Anyhow you can keep a deer hit in PA, but you have 24 or 48 hrs to report it and hand over the head and hide to the local conservation officer. Can't recall, never had the notion to keep one I hit. Normally they'll pick it up (yeah right :rolleyes: ) If you wanna keep the rack it's $10 per point since it's "their" deer. That old boy would have cost ya $80 to keep in PA.

Here's the info on the second buck posted from the Boone & Crockett website


December 5, 2007
This buck was reportedly taken this fall in the Pennyrile Forest State Park in Kentucky. No word on the lucky hunter yet. What an incedible typical frame on this monster deer!

UPDATE: Dan U. Miller harvested this tremendous non-typical in Christian County, Kentucky in fall of 2006. The final score of this outstanding trophy is 246-3/8, and was accepted into B&C's 27th Awards Program on May 11, 2007. The buck has a 205-5/8 net typical frame.

If the second buck is 205, the first is no 190 ;)

[gd357]

here in Ohio, if you hit a deer, the state patrolman will give you a posession tag for the animal, antlers and all.

gd

[TKO]

Bucks dont seem to get hit as much, great rack to look at

[Lilred]

Petey,
Thanks fer correctin me on that second deer and it makes perfect sense if you compare the 2 scores...I asked hubby what became of the deer and he said he wont sure, he will probably ask the fella today.

Now, you meanin to tell me that PA charges you 10 bucks per point to keep yer own roadkill rack??????
That's BS....what the hell are they gonna do with it? Sell it fer big money like a common poacher?
Insane....

[GoodOlBoy]

I believe I woulda took him up on the offer, but what do I know.

GoodOlBoy

[petey]

Lilred,

I'm telling ya, if it's non-human and is PA, then the PAGC believe they "own" it!

Plain and simple fact. A live deer on the hoof is worth $500. How do I know that? Well try to enclose an area in PA and you'll find out. A local had inclosed 150 acres and based off of their formula of how many deer per acre their are, he had to drive out 21 deer before he closed it off or he had to pay $500 for each deer that was mysteriously hiding inside the fence. We drove it off with over 50 people almost hand in hand blowing whistles and manged to scare off 6 in total the first go around. 2 more times produced nothing and the poor gent had to pay $7500 for the 15 deer that the PAGC said were still in there. (even though you could see from one side to the next) 150 acres isn't much, especially when 100 of it is field. Their claim "Oh they hold real tight and you have to kick every bush" :rolleyes:

Another buddy that enclosed 1000 acres paid for a helicopter and counted the deer with heat sensors to prove the PAGC have their heads up their rear and to get out of their stupid forumla of X amount of deer per acre. I'm sure it paid for itself with that much acerage.

Not that I'm for enclosures or canned hunts by any means, but their laws and ideas of how all animals belong to them is about a crock. Unfortunately they get a bad rap around these parts b/c of a few super cops. I know of many that have stopped hunting all together b/c of plain downright harrasment. They had a special on the news the other night about a local CO about how he held a couple college girls in their underwear for over an hr b/c they were swimming and he suspected them of underage drinking. He wouldn't let them put their clothes on either. What "game" laws were they breaking? Well of course they threw the case out and I think they were filing civil suit. Good for him, hope he gets what he's been dishing out the past few years.
The DA is fed up with him as most of his so called arrests just waist time in the courts. Even had the governor saying it was a bit extream.

Anyhow, I digress. I just believe they are hurting themselves and the future of hunting in PA with morons like these packing and wearing a badge thinking they are holier than though art. Got plenty of State Cops that are buddies and relatives and they can't stand the guy either.

Typical PAGC, and it's a shame. So much for their moto of "SPORT"
Sportsman Pulling Our Ranks Together. Sportsman my rear... It's obvious their more concerned about making a buck than "Conserving" anything in PA.

I may sound like your typical outlaw that has a chip on his shoulder b/c he got pinched doing something wrong, but the fact is I'm not and I haven't. It's just how I see it and how I feel about our lovely PAGC. I'm sure that's how many see it too and why they chosen to give it up. I hunt too many other states to have my hunting season ruined.

[Lilred]

Great Jumpin Jehosaphat....
Unreal Petey...ya'll need to do some impeachin up yonder.....
We had a game warden like that...he thought he was God's gift and could control every citizen of the county.
Man did he git tortured....lol
I only had 1 run in with him years ago...I was comin home on a back road one night and I hit the brakes to make a sharp turn and I thought I seen a glare behind me. I got round the turn and hit em again...and seen it again.
I figured it out then so I sped up some and slammed on the brakes...you talk about mad...I thought that fool was gonna kill me lmao...I kept raisin the price on that "rare" back bumper on the 67 Olds Cutlass I had every time he accused me of drivin too slow next to the fields...god it was hilarious.
He's been retired fer a while now...and now his son is a game warden...but not of this county.

Anyway, Petey, what they are doin is wrong and greedy...I reckon that's all it boils down to anyway.

[trex]

Hey Lilred...was that deer killed in Cumberland? Nice un!!!

[Brother Rockeye]

we have plenty of good bucks here abouts,and I can say that one isn't.Good for a 4x4 for sure,but nothin special in my book.I've got racks in the yard that beat that one and they only go 170's.

gotta admit that I shot a 4X4 once...last day,last light...mighty tasty an them smaller loadin handles are easy to use...

road kill here is gov property less you get the go ahead.they don't want folks poachin then claimin road kill.
found this out when I was thinkin of usin RK for the sled dogs...

[trex]

:rolleyes: