True, could I get them for robbery? I doubt it....:rolleyes: Thats what Im afraid of...

Cops are people too, some are good, some are NOT.

Adam:

I think you've hit the nail right on the head here. I thought the NRA used to have an on-line brochure or discussion of these ruels, bbut I could not find it on their website. Maybe it was on packing.org?

Hawkeye6,

Maybe you should go to the NRA site and specifically ask for the Volkmer-McClure Act. Senator McClure was from Idaho and co-wrote the bill. After it passed, the Liberals were so angry that Senator Hughes got his Hughes Amendment attached that prohibited registration of any new full auto arms.

You can legally transport your guns to another state when you go directly interstate. This is NOT CCW, but the guns are to be unloaded and secured as I said previously.

Adam

"Maybe you should go to the NRA site and specifically ask for the Volkmer-McClure Act"

Nah. I'll leave that for grearat since he's the one in need of it. I know I picked up a copy of a NRA brocuhre at a gun show 2 or 3 years back.

I recall giving it to a lawyer friend of mine who had been hassled by the JBTs in Massachusetts. My friend had been traveling through the stae while on a deer hunting trip. Stopped overnight at a motel. Foolishly left his firearms in his locked auto for a while in the late pm. came out to bring them into his room. Car was broken into and the firearms were, of course, gone. Barney Fife, the local JBT, harassed the guy that HE was the lawbreaker for travelling through the cradle of our democracy without having a Mass firearms permit/license and without registering the fireams with the Mass JBTs. (Maybe he was concerned about getting his cut from the thief?) JBT did not seem to concerned about the thief and was in no big hurry to write up the report.

gee thanks

I will read it, just becaues I like to see eleted oficals act like babys :D

http://www.nraila.org/GunLaws/Default.aspx :)

Skinny! That's just the ticket! Great set of links there including the one on interestate transprot that I remembered.

Great sight Skinny!

So now we established that it is lawfull to transport firearms interstate, if you are legal in both destination, and arival.

How do I deal with LEO's that dont know the law? Is their someway I can cover my behind, if I am hassled?:confused:

Well you could always print out extra copies of that site to hand out along the way. :D
Oh yeah, throw in some NRA membership cards too. Ya never know...

Allen

Skinny,

Imagin if you were a LEO who pulled over someone under 30, who has several handguns withought a permit in your state.
Now imagin this kid handing you a internet printout, that is supose to be an explanstion.

I just dont see any LEO buying that, even though it is real.

Mabe Ive just lived in a fatious police state too long?


Earlier I E-mailed a Justice who has his E-mail adress on CCW.com, about how to protect myself from LEO's that dont know of the law. Hopfully he will resopnd.
If not Ill email a justice from another state, untill I get something definative.

Why are you getting pulled over? And if you do, how will LE know what is in your locked gun container which is not readily accessible back there in your locked trunk.

I would ask him to explain how you are violating federal law when you've secured your firearms in locked containers with ammunition stored away from the guns for starters.
Besides, what probable cause would you give him to even get started on a search of your vehicle? I don't think a routine stop or getting a speeding ticket will cause you any issues.

If you do get pulled over, stay calm, be polite (don't volunteer information that will cause further problems, innocent people tend to do that) and that will go a long ways. :)
Ya know if you moved to Pa our gun laws aren't very oppressive. ;)

Allen

Point taken.
I just wana be safe, over sorry. Ya know the saying "just my luck".
I just wana know for sure that Im in the green. Would you take chances with your babies?


I just may put the handguns in the moving truck with my long guns that the movers already know about... Whats alittle white lie? My ammo is traveling in my truck.


Oh yeah Skinny. Trust me, if Pa. was warmer I would be there already!
I like almost everything about the place, aside from traveling on 81, North or South bound seems to be all uphill and turning left:confused:

Skinny,

Great link, I just added it to my Bookmarks. Like I said, you can legally transport you guns when they are unloaded and secured out of sight in a locked trunk. Often when a cop pulls a person over for a ticket, they will ask, "Do you have any firearms in the vehicle?" The right answer is, "No." Do not leave any empty holsters, boxes of ammo or other stuff like than in plain view on the backseat where they can provide "probable cause." Also, do not place NRA stickers on your windows. If a cop asks you to open your car trunk, again the right answer is, "No." I would advise the cop, if he has probable cause, go get a warrant. Lots of cops like to "go fishing", let them get a pole at Walmart and go find a creek.

Be polite, be calm and obey the speed limits until you get to your destination.

Adam

Very true Adem. Several years ago my parents and another couple went to Sturgis for bike week. My mom and the other lady drove the trucks. I forget in wich state, Michigan comes to mind. The other lady was pulled over, for a BS reason (N.Y. plates). I wasnt there so I dont know the details, but anyhow the cop found a handgun in her fanypack.

The chick probobly did do everything wrong. :rolleyes: I was arguing with mom lastnight about that. I let slip that, dads buds wife was lucky I wasnt the LEO, cause I dont think that unlicensed CCW is too cool.
Mom automaticaly started defending her, saying dumb stuff like "it migh not have been loaded". That realy pressed my hot button, caring an unloaded wepon is more stupid than carring a unlicened one, IMHO. What if something did happen and she pulls a unloaded gun? Ha... its the Badguys lucky day!



I think that Im just going to lockem up, put them in a box w/h styrofoam peanuts, tape the heck out of it and lable it Dishes. Then have the movers, who are bringing my stuff down, transport it. Ill make several copies of the law from Skinnys site.

Whats the odds that a moving truck that makes regular runs from upstate N.Y. to Tampa. Geting pulled over, and ALL of its contents searched?

Greg:

You can do what you want to do, but I would not trust them to the moving company if you are not going to declare them. If they have told you that they will not move the handguns, you are really setting yourself up on that one. What are you going to do when the movers show up in Florida and unload your stuff, except the box marked "dishes"? Are you going to file a claim with the moving company for the value of your handguns? Fat chance of collecting on that. Movers are notorius for not wanting to pay-off on missing/damaged stuff if they did not pack the box.

I really think you'd be better off with pretty much everyone's advice here which is follow the law and move them yourself. (That includes obeying the traffic laws...)

H.