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 i wonder how over bore if att all the 25wsm is,, guess i look at that formula and see if i can figure it out. 
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 I agree 100% with what Rocky pointed out about today's powders being slower. 
	Too, in 'Thee Olden Days' when Hoppe's #9 was the standard bore solvent, a lot of high velocity cartridges supposedly went thru barrels faster than they do today. I have always suspicioned that some of those 'burned out' barrels back in the day quit shooting from severe copper fouling, not throat erosion.  | 
		
 See, being a relative newbie reloader compared to some of you, I didnt know there was another powder for the 25-06 than 4831. 
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 i consider myself new too but ive dropped a few difrent powders into 2506 cases,  rl 19 and 4831 being two of them 
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 ANDY L...........The next time I ride past your house with my V4 Chopper, I'll hit the nitrous switch and rattle your windows, to the tune of H-450 & H-850 powder for your .264 mag.:D :D :D 
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