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bigkevmorgan 12-27-2007 04:49 PM

ballistic tips
 
has anyone useing the ballistic tips ever had an issue with them not opening up? heard some of the western guides was not letting people use them , getting ready to load up some 7- 30
waters i have bonded and ballistic and rockey talks highly about the 140gr noslers will be shooting ram size out to 175yrds like the texas dall ,corsican,black hawaiian...thanks for the input....
bigkev.

Ol` Joe 12-27-2007 06:07 PM

I`ve heard of them opening too quick in the past, but never failing to open.

The BT should be an excellent choice for goats from your 7-30.

muledeer 12-27-2007 06:43 PM

You won't hear any complaints from me. I load 130gr ballistic tips for my 270 Weatherby Mag. Deadly on muledeer and lopes.
muledeeer

gumpokc 12-27-2007 09:02 PM

I've never used them in 7-30 waters, but i've used them in .243win, .300savage, .308win, 8mm mauser never had failure to open.

Dan Morris 12-27-2007 09:08 PM

They always have opened in my 270 and 06.
Dan

Jack 12-27-2007 11:12 PM

I've loaded them in 25-06, 6.5x55, 270, 7x57, 280, 308, and 30-06. Never seen a BT not open.
I consider it an outstanding whitetail bullet. I'm sure it would be on antelope, blacktails and mulies, too.
Nosler says the minimum velocity (at impact) for the BT should be 1600 FPS or more.

bigkevmorgan 12-28-2007 01:53 PM

thanks everyone for your help,got about 100 rns to fireform tommorrow then its reload time !bigkev

Cossack 01-03-2008 07:52 AM

If anything they tend to expand to much That's why I use em in my 14" hand cannon.

Rev 03-09-2008 06:02 PM

Ballistic Tip expansion
 
When I first started loading for my 6mm. AI, I found that Nosler 95 gr. Ballistic Tips shot best in my rifle. In my old 6mm. Rem bbl. the Nosler Solid Base bullets were what I used with outstanding success on central Texas whitetails (generally not really big deer). But the SB's were discontinued after the then new BT's arrived.

There were many reports of the new BT's blowing apart on the shoulders of various species of game with little penetration to the vitals. I was extremely concerned with these reports because I really did want to use that 95 gr. BT in my new 6mm. AI.

Nosler had a lot of $$$ invested in developing that new bullet which was getting all that bad press. As a result, Nosler fixed that problem quickly. I think it was a do or die situation for them.

It was with some trepidation that I fired my first deer killing shot out of my new rifle with that 95 gr. BT. Fortunately, Nosler had already fixed that problem. The bullet penetrated both shoulders with that broadside shot at 200? yds. on that 100 lb. whitetail with good expansion and good exit wound. I've been using that bullet ever since in that rifle and have never had the slightest problem with game performance or with accuracy either for that matter in dozens of deer kills.

BTW, this is my first post here and it is obvious that this is a great site with interesting and friendly folks here. Looking forward to visiting here often.

Rev

Dan Morris 03-09-2008 06:14 PM

Rev, welcome to Hunt Chat. Lot of good folks here. Stick around, I think you'll find a home!
Dan
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bigkevmorgan 03-09-2008 07:16 PM

welcome
 
welcome Rev this is yhe best site for info on just about anything you need in the way of hunting! big kev........

Jack 03-09-2008 07:51 PM

Rev, welcome to Huntchat !

dakotah 05-08-2008 01:56 PM

Most bullets are designed for a range of velocity and type of medium they are designed for. I suspect that BT's work best on big game "where penetration is important" at what I would call lower velocities similar to what your 7-30 would give. I have seen a write up in the 'Handloader' by Layne Simpson who I think agrees with this point of view.

I don't use ballistic tips on large game. But BT's usually are very accurate. My brother uses 100 gr BT in his 25-06 on crows and they blow a crow to a red powder or red blast similar to the effect of shooting a water balloon. He gets about 1/4 minute of angle out of his BT loads.

BILLY D. 05-08-2008 03:30 PM

Up here we call 'em popcorn bullets. Big game shot close at high velocities yields blood shot meat.

Used at longer ranges when the velocity has tamed a bit and they are fine.

I personally like Partitions,Hornadys and X Bullets because they work in a wider spectrum of uses.

Above 30 caliber the BT's work great because of thicker Jackets.

I'm like Keith, I like to be able to eat up to the hole with no wasted meat.

Blood Pudding doesn't really trip my trigger, no pun intended.

Best wishes, Bill

Ridge Runner 06-14-2008 07:10 AM

The BT's were quite tender when they were first marketed, especialy the 30 cal's at upper end velocities.
If you recall the BT's were first offered in 100 ct. boxes, when nosler addressed the problem they didn't realy discontinue the SB, what they did was changed it to a BT, Yes todays BT's are the same bullet as the SB with a polymer tip.
They also changed the packageing, the varmint BT's are packed in 100/250 ct boxes, the med big game bullets are 50 ct.
RR

BTW I shoot .284 140 BT's to 3550 fps in my 7 STW, most exit if you stay off the shoulder, when I shoot my bigger 7mm I move up to a 160 accubond.


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