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gdaddybill 10-24-2006 09:20 AM

Where are the custom bullet makers?
 
What happened to all the custom bullet makers--Armfield, Northern Precision, North Fork, etc. I presume some have retired or passed away but is the availabilty of corebonded ammo from the major suppliers made this business unprofitable?

Mike Moss 10-26-2006 08:04 PM

Sure now Nosler and Hornady have bonded cores. Trophy bonded is loaded by Federal or somebody.

Also the mono bullets are catching on.

Catfish 10-27-2006 09:39 AM

There are still several custom bullet makers out there. What cal. bullets are you looking for?

gdaddybill 10-27-2006 10:41 AM

I have some great bonded, 300 grain bullets with a poly ball in the tip for my 416 that came from Northern Precision. I have them downloaded with H4895 (60% of Max recommended rate) to try on deer and hogs so I'm hoping he is still in business or someone else is making up similar bullets. Wouldn't need to be bonded for deer--probably not for hogs. Love the round poly ball, though--keeps the tips from being flattened in the clip with recoil.

Gerard 12-23-2006 09:45 AM

How can I be of service?

Rocky Raab 12-23-2006 10:53 AM

I was about to reply (facetiously) that some defunct bullet makers priced their product as though the bullets were made of gold.

Then I got to wondering...what would a bullet cost if it WERE worth its weight in gold. Some quick Googling and we have the answer:

Your common 180-grain hunting bullet priced as if it were gold would run you right at $15.98

each.



:eek:

Cariboo 12-23-2006 01:29 PM

Quote:


Your common 180-grain hunting bullet priced as if it were gold would run you right at $15.98

Hope you don't do your own taxes. ;) LoL

At 20 bucks US a gram and as about 11.6 grams equal 180 grains the cost of materials alone are around $240.00 per bullet.

Rocky Raab 12-23-2006 03:03 PM

err...um...ounces and ahh...avoirdu-something, and umm...divided by uh...


Oh shucks. Maybe my accountant could do a better job.

(Rocky slinks away, red-faced.) :o

RugerNo3 12-25-2006 07:42 AM

I guess that's the reason the Lone Ranger used silver bullets.:D :rolleyes:

Mike Moss 12-25-2006 09:54 PM

Gerard,

I have a question for you about a theory I have come up with on why there are so many complaints about Barnes X bulletes "penciling thru" or not expanding.

As far as I know you make similar bullets to the X's in that you use a hollow point in solid copper based metal to expand the bullet.

My idea is that the hollow point gets damaged somehow and closed in some. There for nothing tears open on impact and the monolitic bullet does not expand. However with a conventional lead filled bullet the lead is weak underneath and the bullet expands anyway if if it had a hollow point which few do.

Thanks

Mike

Rocky Raab 12-26-2006 08:48 AM

Mike, what happens is that the Barnes bullets perform exactly as designed - but that isn't what the shooter expects to see, so he claims the bullet "failed."

Barnes (and possibly other monolithic copper bullets) don't produce the classic "mushroom" that cup/core bullets do. Instead, they work by opening up sharp petals or blades that slice through the animal's vital organs. Mushroom bullets plow through organs like a blunt object, copper bullets slice through like a 3,000fps broadhead.

Talon 12-26-2006 11:11 AM

Hello All,

There use to be a -net company called "Groovy Bullets" (all copper HP's.) They performed flawlessly in the calibers that I loaded for. I guess they went belly up well over a year ago? I've not been able to find them any more:(

Anyone know what happened to them?

Peace
Steel_Talon:cool:

Blaserman 12-31-2006 03:55 PM

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Mike Moss 01-13-2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike Moss
Gerard,

I have a question for you about a theory I have come up with on why there are so many complaints about Barnes X bulletes "penciling thru" or not expanding.

As far as I know you make similar bullets to the X's in that you use a hollow point in solid copper based metal to expand the bullet.

My idea is that the hollow point gets damaged somehow and closed in some. There for nothing tears open on impact and the monolitic bullet does not expand. However with a conventional lead filled bullet the lead is weak underneath and the bullet expands anyway if if it had a hollow point which few do.

Thanks

Mike

I was looking forward to Gerard answering the question.

Skyline 01-13-2007 01:18 PM

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