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What do you think of the actions of this 2nd Amend supporter.

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Man with gun rants at District Township meeting
Officials and residents say they feel intimidated after Roland Van Tongel shows up with a 9 mm pistol again.
By Ron Devlin
Reading Eagle

Berks County, PA - He did it again.

As if to prove he could, Roland Van Tongel showed up at Thursday’s District Township supervisors meeting packing a loaded 9 mm handgun.
Unlike last month, when he carried the weapon exposed, Van Tongel had it concealed beneath his T-shirt, stuffed in his waistband at the small of his back.
Then, with a state trooper 10 feet away, he lifted his shirt to show the weapon during a diatribe.
He used a sexual slur while accusing unnamed people he called cowardly homosexuals and draft dodgers of making death threats.
"I served in the military and I’m a naturalized citizen for 45 years," Van Tongel shouted. "I carry this sidearm everywhere I go, and I’m not giving up my right to do so."
Van Tongel threatened to bring his Kalashnikov, a Russian assault rifle, to next month’s meeting to prove he had the right to.
The township resident has a permit to carry a concealed weapon.
Legal experts say there’s no barrier to carrying an exposed weapon, even a Kalashnikov, in public because Pennsylvania is a so-called "open carry" state.
The township supervisors, who view Van Tongel’s actions as intimidating, want to adopt an ordinance that would prohibit weapons in the township building.
State Rep. Doug Reichley, whose district includes the township, told the supervisors they lacked the authority to adopt such an ordinance.

This individual was at the previous township meeting and his handgun was hanging out of his front pocket. There was quite a stir because at that time he had gotten into a heated argument with the township supervisors when the gun was noticed. State Police were called but he checked out cause he has a CCW.
In Pa, the CCW is for concealed carry not open carry.
Pa does allow open carry in the state but most folks know enough that these days it may get you a visit to the local mental health facility for a check-up.
He could have his license revoked for flashing his weapon from the story above. I'm surprised the trooper did not cite him for what he did. I often hear this guy on the radio and he is an ardent citizen. But, his latest actions may end up hurting us rather than helping.

Sounds extreme....where I'm from, even a CCW can be revoked for 'hazardous' handling of the gun!
Dan

Good intentions, bad taste.

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He used a sexual slur while accusing unnamed people he called cowardly homosexuals and draft dodgers of making death threats.

See..that's bad taste.
If you go into a town meetin, carry your sidearm "just cause you can" and have a sensible, adult argument....that is wonderful.
Goin in there playin peek-aboo with his shirt and the cops and hollerin .....that's just stupid. It gets you nowhere and it does not impress the ladies. Might impress the homos though...lol :p

BTW, that would be legal to do in va too...with the exception of federal buildins

Sounds like he's a brick short of being a full load to me. Those kind of diatribes due nothing to promote our cause.

As far as brandishing, thats nothing but childish behavior in my opinion. There are lots of things we can do because there is no law against them, but they are not prudent to do because they simply are not proper. Even most gun owners have a sense of proper deameanor about them, this guy is obviously the exception to the rule.

I have noticed this conundrum before in folks who come to this country, become citizens and become OVER patriotic. Not all, but some.

Moderation is the key word here. Thats a word that seems to have lost it's value in America lately. The sine wave is either at the top or at the bottom nowadays. No happy medium, and thats a shame.

This individual is doing nothing to promote the cause and he's making the rest of us look bad. While 99% of us are behaving as ladies and gentlemen this bone head is behaving like a three year old.

He needs a boot in the a$$.

Bill

Me and Billy posted at the same time....lol.. hi Billy ;)

The fellow seems wound a bit too tight. He might not be the best sort to represent the Second.

Fight the Fight COOL! BUT this guy is over the hill,skitzo is about where he's at.

Just because you have the right to do something does not mean you SHOULD. this is the lesson in citizenship that the foaming at the mouth radicals never learn. The difference is well illustrated in the old axiom about three different kinds of people, and what they ask themselves when presented with a choice.

The legalist asks, Can I?

The Libertine asks, Shall I?

And the prudent man asks, SHOULD I?

I think Billy nailed it.

I agree with Billy, another way to say he doesn't have all the cups and saucers in the cupboard.

Acting responsibly will reflect MUCH better not only on yourself, but all gun owners.

You've seen, I've seen it -- as they say a few bad apples spoils it for everyone, i.e., because of the irresponsible few everybody has to suffer with further restrictions across the board to everyone.

Just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD, big difference, JMHO, Waidmannsheil, Dom.