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Minihuntur 10-28-2007 08:53 PM

Are there any 12 gauge hadguns?
 
Just wondering. Do any of you know of any hanguns chambered for 12 gauge shotgun.
Minihuntur

skeet 10-28-2007 10:15 PM

None that I know of
 
Wouldn't be too much fun shooting it anyway. I do however have a T-C Contender with a 28 ga custom bbl. Shoots ok too. But it does let ya know ya touched her off. I do have a 12 ga double that had been cut off to 12-13 inches. Nice gun too. It is a Baker Sidelock with ejectors. Wood is good and it shot just fine till I mashed the bbls so they couldn't be shot. Was considering haveing the bbls replaced in the monoblock...till I figured out the cost! WOW...even doing it myself!!:eek: Kicked pretty bad unless you were expecting it:D

Adam Helmer 10-29-2007 02:02 PM

skeet,

I was going to say that...LOL.

Minihuntur,

Good question; why do you ask? Are you looking for a 12 gauge handgun? I doubt you would want to fire such an arm twice! I am sure there are sawed-off 12 gauge single and double guns around the country. Keep in mind that a shotgun barrel shorter than 18 inches is a "Firearm" under the 1938 National Firearms Act and subject to registration with the Treasury Department and a $200 transfer tax stamp.

If someone saws off a shotgun barrel on their own, that is a 10-year felony if convicted.

Adam

gumpokc 10-29-2007 06:57 PM

Last ones that i heard of were down in mexico.
replicas of the "mad-max" 12 guage, but they normally use a special 12guage short shell, to limit how bad it kicks for one handed use.

skeet 10-29-2007 09:00 PM

Hey Gumpokc
 
Ya know, I fergot 'bout them guns made in Mex land. I even have some ammo for one of them. Little short shotgun shells with 'bout a 1/2-5/8 oz of shot or so. Plastic cases, too.

gumpokc 10-29-2007 11:38 PM

Nods skeet, i think thats the ones, if i remember correctly they are made by aguilia (spelling?)

skeet 10-30-2007 09:37 AM

You got it
 
That company is related to Remington in some manner. I once had a few cases of 20 ga shells in Rem boxes that were made in Mex land. Most of 'em even went off:D I even hit something with most of 'em too:D :eek: They also at one time made loaded ammo for the 44 auto mag. Was so much easier than makin cases for that gun. Also still glad it was sold. Finicky gun for certain.

GoodOlBoy 10-30-2007 01:37 PM

http://www.aguilaammo.com/

You would know they are redesigning their website right now.

A 12 guage cut down would be heck on the wrists, but it would be heck on the other end too.

BTW for the shotgun/pistol cross enthusiasts don't forget the lemat revolver

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver

GoodOlBoy

skeet 10-30-2007 04:29 PM

Lemat
 
I think they were mostly 20 ga center bbls..if I remember my learning right. I had one(original) in my hands one time and iIam certain it was 20 ga approx bore. Kind of ugly gun anyway;)

GoodOlBoy 10-30-2007 05:03 PM

Yep every one I have seen was a 20, don't know why the article says 16. . . . . what do i know anyway :p

GoodOlBoy

skeet 10-30-2007 06:29 PM

Them darn peeple
 
don't know Jack. We knows they were 20's:eek: :D :D

gumpokc 10-30-2007 11:41 PM

I agree, i think the lamats were 20ga, and 9 shot 32 was it not??
originally designed for horse cavalry if i remember correctly.

nevermind looked it up, says it was .40cal, and the centershot is .63 cal, so whatever gauge that corrisponds too

skeet 10-31-2007 10:01 AM

There was a lot of different guns
 
I know there was more than one multi shot gun out there. There was a Walch 12 shot Navy pistol 36 cal. I had all kinds of guns at one time or another. Who can name the first pump action cartridge repeating shotgun on the market?? What was the first US made Military rifle? What was the first practical breechloading rifle made in any quantity? Who invented it and approx when?

gumpokc 10-31-2007 06:42 PM

ok these are just wild guesses without looking it up.

#1 marlin?
#2 harkers ferry rifle??
#3 spencer?
#4 who--dont remember...mr. spencer??? :P
#5 late 1850's? civil war period.

skeet 10-31-2007 09:57 PM

The last question is the hardest
 
The first practical breechloading rifle was the Ferguson invented by a Major (Patrick??) Ferguson who was killed at the Battle of Kings Mountain in Georgia during the Revolutionary war. He was of course British and the rifle was a revolution in itself. The stodgy British military Hierarchy of course disdained a rifle that could be fired every 10 seconds and lost the revolution. The rest I will leave to be answered.:D


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