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Skinny Shooter 12-20-2012 04:20 PM

Reloading the 357mag
 
I'm going to finally start reloading a 357mag for groundhogs.
In what increments do you guys weigh out your powder charges?
The load I'm looking at is a whole 1 grain from min to max load.
2/10gr increments?

wrenchman 12-20-2012 04:29 PM

Sorry to hear u r reloading 357 I just gave about 200 peaces of brass away I would have sent them to u

Skinny Shooter 12-20-2012 04:54 PM

Thanx anyways, that would have been a nice gesture.

Adam Helmer 12-20-2012 05:45 PM

Skinny,

I have reloaded the .357 Magnum for far too many years. What bullet and powder are you loading? I have already established all my accuracy load powder charges, so I think one-half grain changes will get you to your accuracy load.

I only load my hard cast bullets in all my handguns. My cast bullets are more accurate than factory JSP bullets and FAR less expensive.

Adam

Skinny Shooter 12-20-2012 06:30 PM

Thanks Adam.
Half grain increments would only give me three different chargs to shoot with the combo I have so far.

I'm going to try:
125gr Hornady XTP
125gr Speer Gold Dot
I have a pound of H110 powder to use up.
Win and Fed magnum small pistol primers.

What kind of leading issues do you have with cast bullets?

I known I won't get centerfire 22 performance from those pistol bullets but want a hollowpoint that will do a number on a chuck.

buckhunter 12-21-2012 08:05 AM

Alan I used H110 with a 125 JHP. Pretty stout so be careful. I basicaly stick with Red Dot and Herco since I do not load anywhere near max. Did I say I was a recoil wimp.

Jack 12-21-2012 10:12 AM

Skinny, it's been many years since I hunted woodchucks with a handgun. I used 110 grain bullets in my 357. Seems to me I used IMR-4227 (probably a matter of what I had rather than what was best). 110 grain bullets would expand on a woodchuck. I never tried 125's.
2/10 th grain increments makes sense to me - 1/2 grain increments is too big a change, IMO.
3/10ths increments might work, too.

Skinny Shooter 12-21-2012 11:56 AM

I just discovered that I can get light golden saber bullets to reload.
If the other two brands aren't that great I'll give them a try.

Adam Helmer 12-21-2012 01:07 PM

Skinny,

I have no leading with my cast bullets. I use old wheelweights and a dash of tin per pot and drop the bullets from the mould into a bucket of water. I lube with Alox.

I have found half-grain increments worked for me when beginning with the Starting Load. NONE of my accuracy loads are Maximum, so half grains worked ok. I usually tweeked the load up or down a few tenths of a grain once I get nice groups and reliable functioning in the 1911s.

Adam

Skinny Shooter 12-22-2012 02:45 PM

Adam, how hard are those bullets?
Would they work on chucks?


Its 35 degrees and windy here.
Just got back from the pistol range making 45acp and 357 mangalum brass. :D

Here is my 686 shot with a camera phone at the range.

http://i596.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps25a1cfed.jpg

Adam Helmer 12-28-2012 10:18 AM

Skinny,

My cast bullets are hard and they work on chucks.

Adam

skeet 12-28-2012 10:43 AM

Skinny..nothing wrong with cast bullets on Ghogs..but if it were me..I would try some 110 HPs or for a bit longer range 125HPs. They expand well from med to higher velocities..but try not to use powders like H110/296 or even 2400. Lot of muzzle blast with 296/H110. Look in the manuals and pick the higher velocities with powders like HS-6 etc. If you don't mind the muzzle blast..then use the 296..They shoot flatter than heavier cast bullets. I have shot 5 coyotes with the 125s..2 with my 6 in Highway Patrolman and one with the 4 incher..others were shot with the 4 5/8 in blackhawk I keep on the 4 wheeler. Most were shorter(15-20 yds) range but one was a bit more than 80 yds with the 6 inch gun. Kinda spectacular performance out of a handgun. One was a runniing shot at 10 yds or so..bullet went in the left side just behingd the ribs..exited taking almost the whole shoulder out on the right side. It was a REAL DRT kinda hit....and a kinda lucky hit..I must admit.

Not on subject but I shot a yote on the mountain from a rest at about 50 yds with my Blackhawk 41 mag..it is a short gun..but it REALLY did the job and was really surprised. It was a 210 gr jacketed soft point. I carry the 41 for grizz or a really short range elk LOL!

Skinny Shooter 12-28-2012 06:10 PM

Hey Skeet, I found a pound of Lil Gun and Red Dot in the Bunker.
How about either of those two with 125gr HP's?
Am a little short in the budget right now and don't want to buy any more powder at the moment if I don't need to.
I do wear ear protection when shooting so muzzle blast with H110 isnt an issue.

skeet 12-28-2012 11:34 PM

Well Allen the Red Dot is a little too fast for really good velicity with the jacketed bullets.. But Lil Gun should be a good powder. Check the newer data.. Good high velocities with Lil Gun in mag pistols It is my go too powder in the 44 and 41 ..with Jacketed bullets. I think you would have to go to 158s to get load data for lil Gun. But with that powder If I remember right..I think you can get the same velocities with it as with 296/H110 at about 12000 PSI lower pressures....more or less but 296 isn't too expensive. and velocity is up close to 2000 fps. I just don't think the 125 gr bullet and lil gun are compatible. If it were I think I would have used it as a I have a few lbs. Just a recollection. I also have quite a few lbs of HS-6/Win 540

Skinny Shooter 12-28-2012 11:59 PM

I'll try a pound of HS-6.
That powder could also work in the 45acp and 44mag.
Are you always using magnum primers for your 357 loads?


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