[jmarriott]

The 222 is good for 222 yards and will kill out longer than that but 222 is my self impossed limit.

I use 40 grain bullets and have to search a bit to find them over the 50 grain pills. they seem to cause little fur damage and seem to work better in my rifle.

I have many a hit and drop shots and a few that run 30 yards but under 222 yards if i can get a good shot off on my part it is down.

My hunting partner used to use a shotgun with #2's and BB's. Now he has a new savage 22-250 He said it was for the ones that hung up out of range. I think he needs to sit still and wait. In Indiana a .222 is really the only centerfire rifle you need as the houses/farms/macdonalds are closing in.

I had a .17 rem but i could not seem to get it to work for me. I was getting some good groups, some bad groups and a lot of stringing horizontal. I could not get it to shoot well in a crosswind and i had to clean it after every 10 shots well with sweets. Sold the rem 700 .17 and picked up a rem 700 mint 222 with a simmons scope 3- 9 for about $225 outside a local gun shop. Problem solved as i get 100 yards groups you can cover with a nickel for 5. I clean it after almost every outing but i can shoot 250 rounds between cleanings with no percived lost in accuracy

Shoot the .222 almost all of my kills are less than 100 yards and often 50 yards max. If you can hunt from a truck in your state or have alot of really open areas then you might want to look at the .25 WSSM as it seems like it's going to be a good combo coyote/deer/pronghorn gun for long shots. Once again it is based on the short fat case like the .222.