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			Thanks Mazter, I'll check that one out, should be able to find it at Cabelas or other outlet websites.  I should also state that I don't want one with a big guard around it.  I shoot a recurve, quite long, and some of the climbers look like they would work great for resting a rifle on but clumbsy to shoot a long bow from. any thoughts guys? thanks
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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