No flames here so don't take it the wrong way Mike.
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Originally posted by Mike Moss
Does Remington really have any impact in the market today?
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They do with me.
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I will get somewhat interested when they stop brazing the bolt together in three pieces, make a safe trigger, get rid of the J lock, put a real extractor on them and make them CRF.
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Mike, I'm glad you know about this stuff, can you please provide some links to the quality control issues that you cite. I'm open-minded enough to listen to genuine problems about any piece of equipment. Not just nit-picking.
So when I am able to read about Remmy bolts breaking into 2 or 3 pieces or regular stories of extractors breaking, I can make informed decisions.
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I have a couple of Remingtons for target shooting and they were good for that. Remingtons latest effort was the M710 or was it the SAUM's?
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That's a bummer for you. To think that "a couple of Remington's" which did well at the range couldn't be used in the field. Guess you missed out.
I didn't care for the 710 but that topic could be another thread by itself. As to the SAUM's, they may have their place but I lean to the WSM's.
And now Remmy upgraded their VS series rifles which is why I posted this thread in the first place.
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Too bad that America's oldest gun maker has got to such a point.
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Too bad for you I guess. As a gunowner I may not agree with all they do but I won't abandon them.
Things like not chambering the VS-series in 300 WSM, or not lengthening the mag well so my 308 can feed longer bullets through the magazine than those just a bit longer than factory OAL. Fortunately it shoots very well with factory OAL.
I'm sure that if someone gave me other brands of rifles to use I could nit-pick them apart also. But I won't waste money on something I don't believe in. My buddy uses a Ruger Target in 243 and it's a "nice" gun. I do like the safety and that's about it. I'd never buy one though. It's just not for me.
I like my 700's, never had a major issue and have had them shoot well out of the box. Well enough that I will be adding 2 more new ones. With Leupolds even...
They perform and I use them hard during groundhog season. And imagine this, they still work. Rocky has seen me work my bolts when the action happens. I only neck-size so I'm sure extraction problems or bolt breakage would have reared their ugly heads buy now.
So maybe you can see why I will continue to use them.
Maybe not and that's your choice.
My intention was not to start a thread to bash Remingtons, there's enough of that in other forums... I started this thread so varmint hunters could see some new rifles on the market.
Evan, I've fondled the LTR before and it's a nice rig. I think you're right about that stock.
Be well.
Allen
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