Hi All,
      I am puzzled as to why the .280 is not MAN enough for Elk?
   
     As for the Weatherby, well sorry but all the Weatherby's I have seen I have been less than Impressed with

  saw a 460 Wby mag at te ranges at Bisley sure it barked but didn't seem to hitting where it was aimed

  a couple I know have the Vanguards in .223 and one is OK the other puntires primers all the time on any ammo
 
     My Hunting Buddies younger brother has a Synthetic stocked Mkv in 30-378 which is totally inconsistant, it's been back the the factory and it's still as bad. I was offered a .273 Wby mag but I know the guy who owned it is an idiot, looked to see what condition it was in, outside looke fairly new then looked down the bore. God only knows what e had done the bore had scratches and marks in in. Even i can't think it left te factory like that.
     So one out of five was s good one, not good