Hi All,
Now Dom I pointed out that in Ireland due to changes in the Law there all the hunters had left was .22 cenrefire rifles, so they had to make do with what they were allowed. In Ireland the only Deer are Red Deer and Sika, possibly some Fallow but I am not sure on them

both Sika and Red are as large if not larger than the normal American Whitetail, Sika are especially know for hanging onto life.
I did not personally reccomend the .22's for Deer I only stated what was being used and what was required by law, heck I don't even own a .22 centrefire rifle. Even the Irish have come about to allowing rifles up to and including the 270 to be used now

. I pointed this out as it was stated that the .22 was not capable of cleanly killing large Deer which is plainly not the case providing the shot is correctly placed. Hell even a poorly placed shot with the 300 WM will not drop a deer on the spot and it's likely to die a slow lingering death!
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You can't classify the Roe or Muntjac in the same category as the North American Whitetail which is what is talked about in this thread -- and that's I'd bet why the triple duece or other cf 22s are legal for them, they are a lot smaller animal. I've got no argument with those deer. But, they ain't got the oomph or maybe for lack of a better word, power (jewels) to be classified to take Red deer legally and ethically, which is more in line with whitetail and muley sizes, especially in the harsher climates.[quote]
Whilst Muntjac may be small there are a lot tougher than some larger Deer species, the Gamekeeper I shoot with witnessed one shot with a 30-06 using factory cartridges and the bullet which entered the proper spot just behind the foreleg did not exit

but skidded around the ribcage like a mincer, leaving a awful mess inside.

An extreme case but it did happen, the deer didn't go very far either with it's heart & lungs all chewed up
Oh I am sorry I did not know that ONLY Whitetail was to be discussed :rolleyes , the forum is "rifles" and the thread says:-
"Perfect" deer caliber/rifle...lol......
Nowhere did I see WHITETAIL calibre/rifle but it says Deer and Muntjac, Red, Roe and Sika are all species of Deer: