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Roy (just in case 'yote don't chron).
My 20 grns 17 Rems clock at +4400...But, only problem is, some of 'em are sideways! (Had a 3 shot group where all I could see is ONE bullet in profile....would you call that a zero MOA?)
It likes 25 grns at 4200 very well tho, and no damage...as long as it don't hit a bone going in.
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