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lol ok best load to me is hitting what i am shooting at and i dont mean just to the left or right i mean in a dime at a 100 yards lol i look for the tightest group and twist on the scope afterwards but both 204 are - and i dont understand how groups are graded - but the groups i have now are within a 5" sqaure at a 100 yards but i want the holes touching in the middle and i know or i feel like these two guns can do it - i can do it maybe not every shot with factory hmr 17 stuff i know it ought to do it with homemade stuff and a 204 i just cant figure out what its going to take and i am shooting off of bench rest stuff on a windless day and i have had others to shoot the guns with same results- these are both new barrels but they have had the snot cleaned out of them and about 150 rounds shot through them each so i should be getting somewhere by now
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