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rocky advice taken and appreciated - i never thought of it that way and i guess its a good thing i always referred to the books but i usually learn more from others rather than books - i just dont have too many friends that reload thats why i really look forward to what you fellas post - i will start searching for these loads/info from powder makers and bullet makers - i have looked in the recent past and only found small amoutns of info - i got what little from hodgdon powder but only had varget to play with so i will pick up some more powder as time allows and keep looking for info - thanks again
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