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Try shooting them at close range with #9s', even in lead, and you had better be shooting them in the head.
Now, at 10 to 15 yards, I would guess 4's would work, but what is the difference at that range between 4's and BB's. It isn't like there will be any holes in your pattern and the BB's, or even 2's for that matter, are more likely to go entirely through the bird.
I will definitely agree that almost any shot size will cause enough shock & trauma at 10 yards, that it really will not matter. What do geese look like after they have been shot at 10 to 15 yards? I am willing to bet that they look pretty bad.
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