[fabsroman]

PBR,

You definitely had me beat in the drinking category, but if I had drank as much as you I wouldn't have even been awake, much less walking 1.5 miles.

Just to put this right out there, I despise Clinton and I don't think he really did much for the Nation. Yeah, the economy was doing well, but was that really a result of his Presidency? I doubt it since the economy is cyclical and it takes time for any policy change to have a dramatic effect. I think he set the economy up for a downfall with the take off of the stock market. Greenspan kept urging people to stop buying on credit by relying on their paper profits (i.e., unrealized capital gains in the stock market because they had not sold the stocks yet). The market hit the crapper and look at the economy since. People were having a great time during the stock market boom and they love Clinton as a result.

What happened with the first bombing of the World Trade Center on Clinton's watch? If you do not remember, that was the bomb that went off in the parking garage of the World Trade Center. Did Clinton do anything about that. NOPE. I know some diehard democrats that live in New York that decided not to vote for him after that incident.

On top of all that, he was a womanizer, a liar (not that all politicians aren't), he didn't inhale, and worst of all he lied on the stand under oath. That I cannot stand. I find it hard to swallow when LEO's lie on the stand to try and get a conviction, but the President of the USA lieing under oath? What type of dignity is that. Let's compare Nixon and Clinton. Nixon took the fall and in his Presidential library he has a wealth of information on the Watergate scandal. Clinton tried to lie his way out of it and he has very little, if anything, in his Presidential library about the Lewinsky scandal. Oh yeah, how about the White Water scandal of Clinton's where the person with all the knowledge conveniently ended up committing suicide. Personally, I think this country is trying to recover from all the wrongs of Clinton, of which the economy and terrorism are included. Do you think the terrorists that hit the World Trade Center and the Pentagon weren't here planning this thing while Clinton was in office? George W. Bush came into office and within less than 9 months 9/11 happened. Somehow, I doubt the terrorists put that entire plan into motion in less than 9 months. Further, if Clinton had hammered them like Bush has been doing, maybe they would have had less free time on their hands for planning and less resources for carrying out missions. Reagan bombed Quadafi and that was the last we ever heard of that man. Clinton should have done the same to Osama and the rest of his crew.

Don't even get me started about he and his wife falling asleep during Reagan's funeral. We'll see how many people attend Clinton's funeral.

Let's also look at another thing. The Presidents that you are ranking highly have been some of the most recent Presidents. Something tells me that you don't know much about all the Presidents' legacies and what they did. You definitely do not know what they all did during their Presidency and I rarely rely on polls because they are based on people's experiences while they are alive. Almost nobody will know what the 5th President of the nation accomplished. Hell, I don't know that either.

To really come down to who is the best President of them all, it would take a bunch of educated/smart people years of studying all of the Presidents' accomplishments and then voting to come up with a semi-legitimate list of the best and worst Presidents.

Would I put Clinton in there, probably not. Most Blacks would rank Lincoln rather high along with JFK. I also agree with you that JFK is famous because he got shot. A lot of Presidents are popular because of events that happened during their Presidency, not because they were great Presidents. You have to ask yourself, why couldn't we have prevented World War II or at least lessened the destruction from it (i.e., Pearl Harbor, D-Day), the Civil War, or 9/11. Why wasn't the Great Depression prevented or foreseen. How about Black Monday which I think occurred under George Bush's Presidency. How about the current disaster with the stock market? I am sure there are plenty of other incidents in there, but that is all I can come up with off the top of my head.