[skeet]

Actually the eye relief on the 6.5 x20 is pretty good. I do have a 6X18 and it is a little short as is the relief on the 4X12 I have..in fact it is going to go on ebay I think.(the 4X12 that is). I got the scopes both at wholesale and the 300 Win mag rifle was a gift. The 700 VSSF was a bit pricey though worth it I think. Shot the rifle 4 times to get it sighted after the bore sight. The thing seems to want to shoot. Right out of the box. The 8.5 X25 is an awesome scope even if it is kind of expensive...about 700 wholesale I think. For some reason I let a 700VSSF and the exact same scope go at an auction for 1100 bucks. Shoulda bought it. Rifle is more than 800 bucks. BTW how do ya like the B&C reticle??