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Old 03-01-2006, 12:03 PM
muskrat30 muskrat30 is offline
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My understanding is that the same amount of loose powder(Talking 777 here) will give higher pressure(more velocity) than pellets. That is when 100 grains of pellet is compared to 100 grains of the same company's loose powder, the loose powder should give the higher speed. Look at data from Hodgden powder company. The Knight owners manual that I have I think also suggests a lower amount of loose powder when compared to pellets.

My current favorite load is a 320 grain homemade conical over 95 grns of loose pyrodex. They shoot very well & it had complete pass through on the doe I shot in early Dec at 40 yrds. The deer went about another 50 before piling up. Since I am running low on Pyrodex I recently bought some loose 777. I like loose powder because you can taylor your load more and is more economical. With a few speedloaders set up before the hunt hassle free reloading is easy. The Omaga should be fine. I am also very content with my Knight bolt in-line.

Edit; I went & looked up my Hodgdon Basic M-L manual. It is published by Hodgdon powder co, the makers of 777 & pryodex.
The data shows higher velocity with loose powder over the same charge of pellets. The difference can be 30 to 100 FPS or more depending on the load. It also shows slightly higher speeds on FFFG powder when compared to the same charge of the more course FFG powder. These comparisons are all firing the same projectile. I am not saying any of this will matter to a deer, just passing on the info.

Example; Hdy 250 grn SST Sabot

2-50grn 777 pellets(100 total) = 1785fps
100grn loose 777 ffg = 1835fps
100grn loose 777 fffg = 1909fps

In all like comparisons the loose powder was faster. I would say that even though the charge is compressed under the projectile the loose powder is not as dense as a pellet and burns better & more efficient. Like my woodstove on a cold day comparing the heat from 6 smaller pieces of wood to two big chunks.

Last edited by muskrat30; 03-02-2006 at 04:12 AM.
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