[hobbles]

Thanks boys for all the info, I find, with my weapon,, That the 527 ww's work fine with my setup, I have a Green Mountain barrel and they are a big 54, One cleanin patch and a 54 jag don't cut it, It's a loose fit,, I got to use a 50 cal jag with 2 cleanin patches to clean it, Maybe that's why the 527 ww and 015 patch works, But it works,, And there free, I figure after I make bout 700 0r 800 The free will kick in, (gotta pay for the mold's and stuff) Got 500 made already,,, I also found that the 527's and .015 still load the same as the store bought 530 did, I think a lil easier, I still use a short starter, but don't have to use the back of it to get the ball started down the barrel, I can fire 15 shots before I got to run a cleanin patch down the barrel, and that ain't cause it gets had to load, it's cause the POI starts to move on me, I will will fix that with a different lube mixture,, Funny thing bout muzzle loaders,,,, What works for one, may not work for the other,,,