[fabsroman]

Yeah, the American cars are lacking in the power department too.

One of the issues with better gas mileage cars is that Americans want speed out of their vehicles. My brother bought the Trailblazer SS and he gets 12 mpg. I have a hard time swallowing 16 mpg out of my truck, and I have a car that I can also use.

Billy, I hear you about hauling and towing, but GM does make a 1500 series pickup that is a hybrid. However, I haven't really checked out the merits of it yet. At the end of the day, if everybody that had to commute to and from work, without heavy tools or machinery, were to buy something that got great gas mileage, we could tell the arabs to go you know where.

It just seems as though the domestic companies are always playing catch up with the Japanese companies. In the 80's the Japanese companies came out with the first gas saving cars, and then we followed. Now, the Japanese have come out with really good hybrid cars and the Americans are trying to catch up.

Does anybody remember the gas mileage of the first tiny little Civics? Were those anywhere around 60 mpg?

Wondering about what happened to the European countries with colonies? What happened to Rome? What happened to the USSR?

I am wondering if during my lifetime people will be saying "What happened to the USA?".