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Roundball, I guess I understand the issues you have with the magazine writing that the roundball isn't the best projectile for hunting. ...But understand ...I have killed quite a few deer with roundballs...and lots have been killed over the centuries with the roundball. Honestly though, is the roundball the BEST to use to shoot an animal? Even though you feel they are adequate and all you need you must admit that the conicals or solid slugs are for the most part better killers. Not saying that they can't be killed with roundballs..but be objective. If the roundball was better that is what we would be using today in all our rifles. I really liked the early seasons with the muzzleloaders. I used a T-C Hawken in 45 and then 50(roundballs, too). Sad to say but the average muzzleloading hunter now goes with convenience rather than tradition. JM Marriott was probably off with the numbers of traditional muzzys to inlines etc. More like 20 to 1 now. I happen to still have my Hawkens and an original Pennsylvania gun and will shoot them occassionally when I have a desire for pain. Not the shooting understand...but the interminal cleaning and oiling and re-cleaning later for for safety's sake. I also have a Savage Smokeless ML that I do shot more often..mainly because the cleaning chore is minimal. In that regards for me it is more fun. Oh and yes I am a traditionalist in most regards when it comes to guns. I like wood stocks and steel for metal. Blue over stainless. And I surely don't need all the "new" short wonder cartridges Not trashing you..not saying you are wrong..just saying that we both are falling behind the curve when it comes to guns and shooting. If the magazine was trashing muzzleloaders completely I'd really be on 'em too. But don't trash the whole rag just for one or 2 issues you don't agree with. I buy the mag every now and then.. and have for years...will continue in the same way in the future.