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We always spend a little here and there we don't or didn't need to spend. It is in our nature to buy more stuff cause what we want will always(almost) work better. Again the patterns you are shooting are static patterns and aren't even close to what you will see in the field. Pay attention to what TJ said in his previous post. In the field the wind and water and other factors such as the crossing angle of the bird etc will affect the actual usable patten. That is one of the reasons we try to set decoys and blind sites so we are going to get straight in coming shots. TJ is right..the most important thing to learn is to shoot in the field. If you see the equipment just isn't cutting it out there then ya go to a(the) backup plan...even if ya don't have one. Being a "successful" waterfowler means that you have to be innovative and willing to try new stuff. Use the factory chokes and if unhappy with the undertaker put it on ebay. May take a slight loss but better than having something you don't like or have a need for. Being innovative goes somewhat like this. Had a party out hunting and the geese would set up and turn off at the last second... so I got the party out of the pit...moved all the decoys except 4 upwind 40 yds. Kept 4 near the pit and flagged the geese from there. Next 3 bunches we limited out with shots of about 15 yds. Didn't look right but in that circumstance it worked. Other times too. Always think above the curve. Equipment isn't the key in hunting...that little thing between our ears is!

Hey TJ..watching shot in the air is kind of easy but only as you say...from the right angle. When shooting skeet or teaching my students..I try to stay at the right spot so I can see the shot. At least then I do know where they miss. The only one that is hard to see is the 410. Also best against a light grey sky.