Never tried the bump dies from anyone, never had to bump a shoulder back.
I use both RCBS & Redding neck dies and Lee collet dies on my brass and haven`t had any trouble with the shoulders being too far foreward. I do toss my cases though after 10-12 loads just as a habit.
A regular sizer die will bump the shoulder if you have one. I don`t think you will need it more then once or twice during the life of your cases. A regular hunting rifle likely will never know the difference unless it is a 1/4 MOA shooter or better.
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