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Old 06-10-2008, 08:51 AM
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Disagree all you want then go read the FBI tests, the Texas Highway Patrol tests, the California Highway patrol tests, and just about everybody else who is going AWAY from the 9mm because of the lack of penetration. Also keep in mind I am talking about barrier and heavy clothing penetration, not shooting through some naked psycho with ball ammo.

And no the 9mm was not designed to kill people. It was designed to create one heck of a wound channel. The original intent of going to the 9mm instead of the 45 acp was that the 45 acp was a killing round which should not be carried by a "peackeeping" force.

Don't listen to the BS. Read your history.

Does that mean the 9mm is not valid particularly as a self defense round? Heck no. It is MUCH better than nothing. And it performs well against unarmored, thin clothed targets, particularly with HPs. Does that mean I would carry one as a cop OR an armoured car driver. In a word NO. By the way the Gold Dot/Golden Saber comment show JUST what I am talking about. HPs do NOT perform as barrier penetration unless designed to do so (Such as the Golden Saber Bonded POLICE version ammo. Not the civilian bonded version.)

Anyway as I was saying that is the reason most officers are begning to carry 40s, 357 sigs, or even going back to the 45 acp. Myself if the department was buying ammo and cost wasn't an object and I HAD to carry an automatic then I would lean towards the 357 sig. And thats sad because I am a 45 fanatic.

Personally I like revolvers better than automatics, but thats just my choice. A good 357 with a 158 grain semi jacketed Soft point does one heck of a job through a car window or roof, and even through modern doors on houses. (houses over 20 years old have a decent chance of having a solid core oak door. Good luck if you have to shoot a bad guy through one and you are armed with a pistol.)

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