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thanks guys. i want to buy 17 fireball ammo and use it to create fireformed brass and reload as 17 m4. i dont want to anneal 221 fireball brass and use my forming die if i dont have to. i own a 221 fireball cooper and it takes time to shoot up ammo for brass. when i bought the 17 m4 cooper there was no rem. 17 fireball ammo out yet. i started out with a couple of boxes of cooper 17 m4 ammo but very spendy. i do this with my k hornet using hornet ammo to fireform and reload as k hornet. i dont loose accuractury going that route as the hornet is only a 150 yard gun and not really a tack driver. its a ruger and thats why its a k hornet and thats why after the ruger there is cooper.
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