I really don't see where the 45-70 is so bad. I keep one in the truck for hunting in the black timber for elk and it will also work ok on ol grizz. I do use the 405 gr bullet in about the middle of the road loads for my ol Marlin 1895. Shoots good and not that much recoil. I must say that the 300 and 350 gr bullets do have a bit less recoil.