[skeet]

When he first started into shootin and reloadin. Wanted the hottest of the hot and all the velocity (and recoil) he could handle. I started him into shootin shotgun. Good grief he shot like an old farmer. After he started gettin the flinchies he started to listening to me. He is one of only 2 people's reloads I will shoot now. Mine are the other ones. He shoots some of the best well made loads I have ever shot. Back in Md where I used to live he's now the go to guy for info on reloading. But even at his worst he wasn't unsafe with his guns. Just had to have the hottest loads around way back when. He learned it really wasn't all that necessary. And just to let ya know..he don't shoot like an ol farmer any more either. Now I know I have a Weatherby or 2 and a couple other maganumbs. But factory velocities are just fine with me...usually a bit less. And especially with a coyote or whatever..dead is dead..