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Thanks for the "back me up" words. I learned a long time ago a prairie dog never knows how fast the bullet was going that gets him. I feel that a shotgun patterns better with loads that are not "sizzlers" and I am not afraid to shoot against the guys loading up their shells with lots of Longshot. I know some guys tht shoot loads that sound like a battle ship firing off. A young gal ( a pretty good shot) was having her Mom load 12 gauge for her to shoot on the trap team in college. Her gun was shooting open.(Rem 331). I asked her to bring me her gun and a box of her shells and we would go to the trap club together to test it. I knew what the problem was as soon as I fired one shot; it kicked like a mule. We disassembled a few shells to get the powder charge weight and then checked the manufacturers manual. Her loads were three grains over the max. Problem solved. She said the new loads were really nice to shoot.
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