Thanks for blowin my horn. My 12 ga averages were about 9850 to 9900. In the 410 my average has really sucked in the last year or so.only about 93-94. Now as to misses..almost every miss with the 12 ga IS a mental error. 20 and 28 too. the 410 is a horse of another color though. Ya gotta be a very precise gun pointer with them as the core pattern really isn't any larger than about 10 inches. By core pattern I mean the never miss part of the pattern. Chokes sure have gotten better in the last 25-30 yrs.

My shootin on the other hand has gone down the pooper.