[Mr. 16 gauge]

While I do appreciate these discussions, I think most of us would have to agree that this is mostly an exercise in 'mental masterbation'. Darn few of us have ever been in a gunfight, let alone multiple gunfights which would qualify us as 'experts'. Let's face it.....most of us get our information from the internet & gun magazines, and let's just say that this is less than nonbiased writing. There is also a lot of hogwash out there.....for example, the idea that the 9mm was developed because it would only 'wound' people, requiring more men being tied up taking care of casualties. What a load of crap! If I'm being shot at, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to stop shooting back to take care of a wounded comrade! And more importantly, wounded soldiers can and WILL shoot back!!!!!
I am also not impressed with the drivel that came out in the 80's regarding the myth of the "one shot stop"......if the .45 is so great, then why was the .357 magnum loaded with 125 grn JHPs the one with the best 'record' of one shot stops? And I do believe that most criminals will turn tail and run at the sight of a gun being pointed at them, not 'stand and fight'.....by the very nature of being criminals, they are cowards as well. They produce a gun to terrorize people; I am producing one to KILL THEM!! They don't practice on the range......I do. They don't do testing in various media to find what works for them......I do.

Bottom line is that I have confidence in my abilities, my firearm, and my ammo.......and I think that has more credence in a gunfight than the caliber I'm carrying.

There may have been some merit to the argument that the 45 was better than the 9mm when the two were compared years ago on a FMJ to FMJ basis, but we have come on such a long road since that time..................

If you don't like the 9, then fine......but I'm willing to bet that I will do just as well with my 9 as you will with your 40, 45, .38, bazooka, or whatever when the chips are down.