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You can believe or not believe in the 'one shot stop' if you want to, but that is the entire reason why most Texas peace officers have abandoned the 9mm altogether. It isn't a myth it's a fact. The reason the 357 magnum with 125 grain hps has such a good record is because #1 it works. It has ALOT more knockdown and stopping power than a 9mm or 38 special. One thing interesting is a fully bloomed 357 mag hp is very close to .450 in diameter. . . . well isnt that intersting thats a 45. . . . The reason 45s dont always have a good reputation is that many people load them with cheap ball ammo that will punch through, but down't have the energy transfer of a good hp. It just doesn't. And the "80's" myth started during the jungle island wars when 38's wouldn't stop the doped up tribesmen in the philippines from killing a soldier after he plugged him five or six times, but amazingly 45s did. . . I would take a 44 over the 9mm any day as well (mag or special).
As for comparing fmj to fmj and hp to hp. The 40 S&W the 357 sig, and the 45 acp all beat the 9mm in that straight comparrison. The 9mm beats the 380. The 380 beats the 25 auto. In revolvers the 357 mag beats the 38 special (even the +p) The 44 mag and the 45 longcolt beat the 357 mag, and the 454 casull or 50 alaskan beats the 44 mag and 45 colt. This is with factory loads naturally. I have 45 colt hunting loads that beat the bejeebers out of any factory 44 mag or 454 casull out there. I don't use them for self defense unless I have no choice in the matter because they are handloads and that opens a whole nother leagal can of worms.
By the way I don't know of anybody who carries fmj in there ccw gun. Even in 9mm or 45 auto its a bad idea because you can get such a pass through that you can damage other people and property in a gunfight. Most of us carry hps. I am sure there are exceptions.
Talk about an argument not havint merit and being "mental masterbation". You get the idea that none of us have been in gunfights. Take a look at the number of Law Enforcement and Exmilitary on this sight and you will find out just how wrong you are. I am not going to carry an inferior round if I have a superior one no matter how much somebody else hails it as the great blue wonder. Period.
You get a chip on your shoulder about your 9 its not my problem. I don't have a chip on my shoulder about my 38 (which matches your 9 ballistics and I only carry it because it is a double action snubbie) or my 45s. You don't believe in one shot drops I hope for your sake you never run into a gunfight with somebody who does.
Also if you read you will see where I already admitted I would rather have a accurate 9 that an inferior round to it or nothing at all, but then again people who just want to fly off the handle rarely do read the whole message.
GoodOlBoy
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