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Old 05-26-2010, 08:01 PM
skeet skeet is offline
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Gunfights etc

Been around a few in my time..involved and after the fact. In almost all the after the fact ones..there were quite a few rounds expended and very little bullet wound damage. Gunfights are usually close encounters where everybody wants to be a long way from each other..therefore there is a lot of missing. One comes to mind right off the bat. 31 rounds fired by the 2 two gun toters. Range was Bar Box pool table range..say 8-9 ft. Only person hit was a guy trying to get away from the flying lead and got hit in the right hand goin around a corner.. Po-Lice never did catch the 2 shooters who took it on the lam..surprisingly in the same direction at the same time. Moral of the story is you are trying to find a place to hide from the flying lead even while you are shooting it. Not conducive to good accuracy btw. To be very honest carrying a gun is an act that tends to make us feel better..while at the same time we hope we never have to use it. Most CCW encounters are ended when the CCW holder pulls the gun. Happened 2 times for me with no shots fired..one dropped his piece and took off. It was a real junker Lorcin anyway. Went into a dumpster.. Another dropped his knife so quick it wasn't funny..he accosted 8 of us after leaving the theater(Watched 42nd Street). Wanted money and jewelry. I didn't even pull the gun..just showed it and he was gone. The matrons in the vicinity were shocked..and happy I had the piece.. I just got out of town in a hurry. Talking to the law about carrying a gun(in Md anyway) is not a fun thing. Gunfights are scary things. Most people hit in altercations of that type are usually bystanders cause the shooters are shuckin and jivin looking for a place to hide. Me too. But if I have to carry something..even a 25 is better'n rocks or fists...or a knife. I'll still choose to carry something bigger than a 9 which is usually a 45. My preference. For the average Joe...which includes most of us..including lawmen..lack of fear is the only thing that keeps us standing up there letting people shoot at us...and there aren't many with that lack of the fear of death. Not me...and not y'all either.

As for the Moro's..check it out.. There was a real reason they were not stopped by small rounds. They were drugged, already in extreme pain(according to what I have read) and were very slight people. Rifles were very unwieldy at distances of mere feet too. Rifle rounds went straight on through especially rounds not well aimed. These encounters happened at mere feet too ya know! Oh and look at the 38 Colt round. Anemic is an understatement. Makes the 9mm look like a real winner

OOne last thing..we had a hijacking attempt of an aircraft one day..One of the police officers attempted to shoot the main gear of a 727 with Round Nose 38 Specials. Actually bounced off the tires..all 6 times. One round with a 357 did each tire in. True story..I was there.
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