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I've used the torch method on rifle brass, with good results. With the torch method, do it in dim light, and as soon as you see color change, tip the cases into the water.
Skeet's right about it being a good way to salvage old brass- I used the torch method on some obsolete brass for a friend- from the late 1920's or early 1930's- worked like a charm.
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