[skeet]

Mr 16..if you could equal the "Quality Steel" that you are talking of then it would possibly be worth loading steel if you 'needed' a lot of steel ammunition. You can make better than the junk shells fairly easily. As good as the good factory?? I doubt you can equal it. You don't have the components available to be able to make them...especially the blended powders and wads. Use of new cases would really be required to equal it. Now if you like spending the time to do it..fine..you'll come close to the commercial best, but I doubt you will equal it. I shot a lot of steel when it was the only non-toxic available..It took a lot to kill the birds because all factory steel was junk. It has gotten better and some of the best steel is really good. Hevi-shot and it's ilk are so much better and so much more expensive(but worth it) but again you won't really be able to equal any of the best non-toxic. I reload, as I'm sure you do, because I enjoy the hobby and I do save money loading target loads(we do shoot many more) and when lead was legal for waterfowl I could make loads to equal factory premium. But loading steel is in a different realm. Heck even in the metallic arena..it is becoming hard to equal the factory. Especially velocity wise. They use the same quality bullets we do...somewhat better powders and quality contol is for the most part really good. The only way we can make the metallic better is we are able to tailor the loads to our own rifles. For more years than I care to admit to...shotshell loading was my business. Enjoy the hobby for what it means to you..but in reloading steel..don't expect to equal the best factory