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Actually right now I usually carry a 38, as I have said many times. AND I never suggested carrying a 50 of any sort. I feel sorry for your buddy if he was stupid enough to buy a mangulum rifle for whitetail when a 30-30 would do it just as good if not better and COST LESS for the job. There is always a balance. In my books if I can depend on a 45 to penetrate X number of pine boards X thick then I can depend on it to penetrate FBI heavy cloth in the winter time...... Ever think of that one? Heavy cotton tshirt, flannel shirt, wool lined denim jacket. Stops a 9mm, 380, 38 spec etc pretty danged effectively. A 357, a 40, a 41, a 44, a 45 penetrates without a hitch. I am not trying to drop chargin rhino, but I have had a knife pulled on me in the winter time, and while I am sure a 38 to the coconut would have done the job the guy was wearing enough padding to stop a 38 for center mass.
Any ccw gun beats NO ccw gun. But I will say it again IMHO a 380 NO MATTER HOW EXPENSIVE AND FANCY will not penetrate heavy cloth in the winter, and that's that. SO IF I was buying a NEW ccw it would NOT be a 380. A accurate 380 is a deadly round, IF you have the time to draw it aim it keep your cool, etc etc etc. I have been in enough simunitions live fire drills and scenarios, have had knives and guns pulled on me that I know what adrenaline does to my hands at point blank range around 30 seconds in. I want something that will do the job even if my shot placement is not perfect, even though it usually is. The problem is that it USUALLY is. nothing is 100%. I am not saying there is a magical bullet, and I believe I have already stated a number of times I don't buy into the fancy ammo, fancy caliber bunk. A 45 colt loaded at cowboy speeds with a 250 or 300 grain LEAD bullet will do a number on ANY target, be it in defense, or for hunting. You can magnumize it if you feel the need, I don't.
You are correct pine does not reflect the way a human body, or animal body will react to a bullet. Thankfully a animal body DOES reflect the way a body will react, and I have had a good amount of luck with a 45 in a whitetail deer. 357 mag wasn't bad (in 158 grain hp, lead, or sjsp) , 38 special wasn't good except in 158 grain lead or sjsp FYI. You are correct the myth of the one shot stop is just that a myth unless you hit the brainstem in which case I refer you back to my earlier comments about adrenaline.
To say it again and again and again. I don't like a 380 based on my OWN experiences. Not in felt recoil, but in end result. Tangible results I have seen, felt, and tasted. I don't believe ANY article, ANY legend, ANY myth, ANY salesman until I have seen it done myself. As an example it is the entire reason why I have left the 327 fed mag out of the conversations. I have heard alot many ways about the round, never seen it in action so I have no opinion on it.
GoodOlBoy
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