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Adam and as usual I kinda agree with you. The old 32-40 is better than many rounds.. The 30-30 is a good cartridge for deer within its parameters..But there is another lever gun round not too well known that works as well if not better. It's called the 7-30 Waters. It really is no better than the 30-30 in my opinion...but with somewhat lighter bullets and just a bit flatter shooting it does the job. I will also make a case for the 25-35. Has killed many a deer..but feel it is a little light but works in the hands of a good hunter. Definitely too light for an every day load for bears though. My favorite in the lever gun type rounds for deer and black bear is the good ol 35 Remington. But mine is in a Remington Pump..I have a 141 and a 760 both in 35 Rem.