[popplecop]

Well Good ol Boy, I can take the arguement even further then, the centerfire rifle bade both obsolete. I'm a traditional muzzleloader, that's my choice and have a little experence with them, little over 50 yrs. If the traditionals were outlawed I'd quit ml hunting. There are different philophicies and to each his own, but some of have enough knowledge and history of front stuffers that we don't need more advice. Please note my favorite mlers are flinters. Also this site was a separate posting for muzzle loaders of each type. Really too bad we can't have one for Single Shot Rifles.