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My Kimber 30-06 shoots the 165 SST great in Hornady Superformance ammo. I can keep 'em at around 3/4 in. A friend who is numb from the neck up can do under a 1/2 inch. And I can get my exact copy reloads to do the same. The SST is a good bullet for long range deer...but not heavily enough constructed for elk..IMO. 400 yes IS a long shot for deer but if you learn to shoot at that range... not too far. My first antelope was a bit farther at 475 so it isn't impossible. I took a fellow deer hunting who was in a wheelchair..so not easily mobile and he took a nice critter at about 350. I expected a shot at under 125 yds. Didn't happen. One of the neatest parties I ever took for geese was a husband and wife. He was in a wheelchair and she sat right with him..Had to keep 'em covered and rig a way to keep 'em hidden in the open. Got geese within 10 Ft of them by flagging and lots of decoys. Was an exciting day for them...BTW...that gal could shoot.... especially for a Yankee. He was pretty good too. 6 geese 8 shots