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Old 10-04-2011, 08:57 AM
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Now we have three written documents that tie Holder to F&F back to July 2010. We also have a boot lick trying to cover Holder by saying he did not read his messages. Yeah, right.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...-than-claimed/

This had to come because of Holder's speech given in Mexico about Gunrunner prior to its name being changed to F & F. Somewhere there is written proof he knew about this in 2009, not 2010. Issa now has written backup to a lie by Holder, it is on the fire, all he needs to do is start roasting the participants. Remember, while this is frustratingly drawn out, Issa must have proof to nail the head LEO of the land.

If you look at the page above, look over to the right at the article by D***8217;Souza and his new book on O'BS. It directly speaks to the heart of the matter regards the objective and intent of O'BS. He is, according to D***8217;Souza, following his father's teachings, to destroy this country's system of government and its economy from within the government itself. Thus, there is no mistake about his economic policy, it is a direct frontal assault, not a mistake at all. This is a follower of Carl Marx, make no mistake about it, all he needs is Mao***8217;s little red book by his bedside. 60 years ago he would have made a dandy Fidel Castro.

Plausible deniability, undoubtedly, but only to a point, like right now, after people get dead. However, the deal is that these folks were brazen to start with and they were right out in the open. As long as we think about this as decent people err now and again, we will never see this for what it is. That is where the honest ATF agents made a big mistake and were naive, they thought this was an error also.

Here is the clincher and just think about this, it is so simple, go back to the beginning:

We can not turn over the papers requested because we are investigating this matter.

Paraphrased but basically what the DOJ said to Issa. Now fast forward to today and you have that lie all laid out as a cover-up.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:01 PM
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EXCLUSIVE: House Republicans are going to call for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Eric Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned.


11:45 AM CT 10-4-11 -- All right Mr Issa!!!
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:01 AM
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Well if you have been following the F&F debacle you know that O'BS has confidence in Holder and blew off the Special Council. Then Issa hit Holder with a new Subpena which included about a dozen folks from the DOJ and the White House. First, the five memos showed up but after the Subpena some new memos have been produced and we are again waiting for memos and messages. Issa is after the connection between DOJ and the WH.

The Iranian plot just got thrown into the mix, because they had to release the info due to court appearances. What no one has said was there would be no court appearances if the 7 month investigation did not have arrests right at this moment. No doubt the uneducated are impressed.

Then Holder and the gang tried to blame Bush one more time saying he had a program just like F&F. This was an outright, and outrageous lie. The Bush program included electronic trace equipment in the guns and the inclusion of and the full cooperation of Mexican Authorities. Plus the minute some of the trace equipment malfunctioned, the Bush program was stopped immediately. Oh, plus a minor difference, no one got dead.

Now it appears that O'BS and the "normal suspects" are up to his/their neck in corruption and scandals involving billions of US dollars. Pelosi's version of "draining the swamp" is to have her brother in-law ears deep in the hog trough, while she has a special low minimum wage rate for Samoa where her fish processing plant is located.

Basically you have a Chicago style politico circle jerk going on in DC.

We can only hope that some focus stays on F&F. Seeing Cain go ahead is a refreshing view. If he gets the call, I hope he has a 5,000 gal tanker full of Clorox to pour over the mess, we the people are in need of a good sanitizing in DC.
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Old 11-04-2011, 12:41 PM
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I know, let's blame it on Bush.

Once again the O'BS clowns in waiting are trying to blame Bush for a crumpled fender in the ongoing wreck of F&F. Now saying that Bush did the deed first and the Bush program was Wide Receiver.

Of course the O'BS minions conveniently forget to mention that the guns had tracking devices, the Mexican Government was fully informed and in cooperation and that when a group of guns got through and were lost, the program was immediately halted. But other than those minor items it was the same......

The new documents gotten by subpena clearly show the Mexican Government was working with the US in the Wide Receiver program. Unlike the O'BS F&F deal where everyone denied the guns existence to the Mexican Government and even to the ATF agents in Mexico City.

We are starting to see, cracks in the plaster, political hacks are starting to acknowledge that F&F is a serious albatross around the neck of O'BS and his reelection campaign.
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:57 AM
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How about an understatement: Holder ain't a Harry Truman!

Yesterday Holder testified before the Senate Committee: He blamed lax gun laws on F&F, he blamed Bush, he blamed the Republicans for blocking stronger gun control, he said no one gave him those damming memos, and then said he can not be blamed for F&F because he can't keep up with every operation, and on and on. He did admit that the letter from him stating that there were no gun walking programs was "inaccurate." Here is another quote:

"I certainly regret what happened to Agent Brian Terry," Holder said. "It is not fair, however, to assume that the mistakes that happened in Fast and Furious directly led to the death of Agent Terry."

Holder also said that he had not apologized to the Terry family and under further questioning admitted he had not even contacted the family at all.

A real boss in a situation where there may be a problem with an underling, contacts the aggrieved party, expresses condolences, and indicates he will look into the situation and get to the bottom of the problem right away, but not Holder. As a business owner what I see here is a person so busy covering up, he can not do the right thing by anyone.

Frankly in my opinion Eric Holder is a Skunk of the first order. Every time I see him open his mouth I want to go puke.
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