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			Getting back to your thread: I use both factory and reloads in my guns; I use what is most accurate in my guns. Many states have passed "Castle Doctrine" laws that shield citizens when they employ deadly force. I would not want to be a test case to see how much citizens are shielded. I have followed many justifiable shooting incidents in my career and found the FIRST question was: Was the use of deadly force justified? A bad shooting would not be justified merely by the use of factory ammo. I tell my handgun students to retreat, if possible, and when there are no other options, use deadly force. Another legal question is "Standing." A use of deadly force at 2:00 a.m. in your home repelling a home invader has more standing than say, dropping a guy in a Walmart parking lot. CCW and home defense situations demand a lot of good judgement and I hope we never have that scenario to deal with. But, in gravest extreme, do what you gotta do with factory or handloads. Adam 
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			I use factory ammo while CC in the city, running errands, ect.  While hunting, I usually have handloads in my sidearms. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I don't think the bad guy is going to wait for me to change over from handloads to factory loads; I will use what I have available.  
		
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			When you are in need, the Lord provides......a mysterious doner has provided me with 100rds of Golden Sabres in .357!!!!! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			I hope things turn out for you folks.we're feelin yer pain here in Kanuckistan too.I have a 3 hour drive for a box of .44 spl til my mail order arrives...whenever that might be...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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