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Old 05-27-2010, 08:53 AM
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I have read threw these posts and i would have to say it is what they can shoot well.
I have a 9 and a 45 it helps that there is cheep amo for the 9 for practaceing.
Both my sons love to shoot the 9 and they can shoot it well.
The other thing is a 45 even a compact is not light my cousin has a kimber compact and it is not light so he dont carry it often.
It is no good if the gun is at home when you need it.
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Old 06-27-2010, 09:37 AM
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It depends what you prefer

I have several 9mm handguns and do carry them from time to time. All the best...
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Old 06-06-2010, 05:12 PM
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Well for CC I have an old Cold LW Commander .45 and 2 Para Carry 9s, but in hot weather don't do me a lot of good. So I have an AMT Back Up .380 which is stainless steel, that wasn't bad. Now I just got a Ruger LCP 380 and love it, could hide it in a jockstrap, but with me that would be a very, very ugly sight. If you can't carry concealed with out printing carry open or find a suitable pistol to carry concealed. I'll get flamed for the use of a .380, but 30 years in law enforcement taught me bullet placement. I'd carry my old Commander all the time if practical but let's face it it's not.
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Old 06-06-2010, 07:05 PM
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I'll get flamed for the use of a .380, but 30 years in law enforcement taught me bullet placement.
I sometimes carry a Walther PPk/s in .380 during the summer months, stocked with Speer GDHPs
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Old 06-07-2010, 08:52 AM
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You won't get flamed from me for carrying a 380 if that is what you have to use no. But If I had another choice I wouldn't carry it. And I am VERY careful about bullet placement. 35 years of being a military brat and a hunting redneck has also taught me bullet placement, particularly since I grew up raised by men and women who lived through the great depression and used mostly old 22s, 22 shorts, and 32-20s to put deer meat (amongst others) on the table their whole lives. If I had a choice in the matter (and I do) I wouldn't carry it myself, but that is my choice. I am currently looking to aquire a taurus tracker in 45 colt so I can let me wife pack the 38 +p.

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Old 06-07-2010, 05:22 PM
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Set out to carry what you will carry and practice with the gun. Practice, practice, practice. The old hands know that but the new guys need to understand that a good man (a man who will use the gun and knows how)with a little gun is a bad dude. Do not mistake the gun making up for lack of, on the part of the man behind the trigger.
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Old 06-08-2010, 08:19 AM
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You got that right Ed. The biggest baddest bore in the world won't help if you can't make the gun function because you panic, and it also won't help if you can't hit what you are aiming at.

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"The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:12 AM
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Rapier,

I agree with you; folks need to practice a lot and then a lot more!

About two years ago a neighbor asked for advice for a CCW piece. I talked him (A novice) into buying a S&W M10 .38 Special. The guy got his permit and bought the gun and came by my home. He asked, "Can I buy .38 ammo in less than case lots?" I said, "Sure, a case is 1,000 rounds and a few boxes should do you just fine." He said, "No, I just want to buy 6 rounds."

I told him he needed to function test his gun, get used to the recoil and see where it hits for him. He balked and wanted me to sell him 6 rounds, ONLY! Go Figure?????

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Old 06-15-2010, 08:52 AM
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First of all we are talking about concealed carry and controllablity. My favorite is my old Colt LW Commander in .45acp, for me it's not a practical carry in hot weather, note I said for me. My next choice is my Parra PDA in 9mm, and really hot days or quick grab for the store is my Ruger LCP in .380 acp. Now I do have an old S&W model 36 I also like and carried for years. I've been retired 22 years from law enforcement and was a firearms traing officer for the State of Wisconsin, all wheel guns then. I myself have tried some of the small .45acps and .40 S&Ws, I've come across some contolabilty issues and functioning problems that I have not found with my 3 choices. My 2 cents that due to inflation is worth a plugged nickel.
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Old 06-15-2010, 07:03 PM
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Popplecop you bring up a fine point of order here. I pack all stainless guns for ccw. In Texas with 120f+ and 60%+ humidity you carry stainless or you clean it daily.

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"The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:44 PM
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No flame here 16 gauge i carry a 9x18 mark and i can hit with it some hornady rounds or a good bullit you should be good
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:01 AM
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Good ol Boy, I personally prefer blue steel and wipe down daily. But have to admitt it just an old prejudice from an old man. I personally wouldn't carry any handgun that I've not shot a mininum of 200 rounds through regardless of caliber. Another thing a lot of nay sayers on calibers have not kept up on new ammo types available to the shooting public, I say that and my favorite .45 acp is 230 ball ammo, but it is what I started with back in the 50s. 9mm and .380 acp ammo has advanced dramatically.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:11 PM
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I agree about rounds through a ccw piece Popplecop. If you haven't put at least 200 rounds through it how do you know it won't fail when you need it? I carry Stainless (mat stainless, not shiny) because I am a fat fat man in a hot hot state. In the summer if I am outside alot (and I usually am) I have the sweat niagra falls going on.

Yep ammo has come up alot, and so have guns (to an extent most of the improvements ever tried to be made to 1911a1s were not improvements.)

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"The gun has been called the great equalizer, meaning that a small person with a gun is equal to a large person, but it is a great equalizer in another way, too. It insures that the people are the equal of their government whenever that government forgets that it is servant and not master of the governed." - 40th President of the United States Ronald Reagan 1911-2004
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Old 06-18-2010, 08:34 AM
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hey guys while we are on the topic, i work with a game warden who loves his 45s. i always have to suffer a story about some cops or agents who shot some guy who was hopped up on pcp with 9mm's. 40 rounds went down range before the guy was stopped. any one know where i could find this story and get the truth?
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:46 AM
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Good grief..I hear those stories too. You have to understand though..the BG didn't take all 40 rounds. He mighta been on PCP..but they were hopped up on something almost as potent..Adrenaline. Having seen some of this stuff in the past the story isn't too far from true...from time to time. PCP is a very potent drug and can make a person capable of really amazing feats. I had a guy posey strapped to a guerney once Narcan'd him and he literally broke both straps...grabbed my partner and that's when I hit him with the trunchion the cop threw in the back door of the ambulance. Ya know the cops shot a guy with a toy pistol(orange plastic thingie on the end and all) in the edge of my woods..41 rounds expended(all by the PO-leece of course) I must say they did well as they hit him 16 times..at a max distance of 20 ft...min distance was 4 ft. Cops are not always the most accurate shooters out there ya know..but you or I probably wouldn't be..in the same circumstances.. Again..that said..big holes are much better than small ones. You really can't refute the laws of physics...no matter how many say it ain't true
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