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They are not bad pistols, but they are not designed for heavy usage.
If you just want one to shoot a few times a year, or as a "dresser-queen" they would probably be fine, but they won't holdup to heavy usage.
their 9mm carbine looks decent, and i know people who have run quite abit through them.
that's just my opinions from talkign to peopel who have them, i do not personally own one or have used one.
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