[skeet]

As to the sub MOA rifles..most are in peoples dreams. I do have a couple that are true sub MOA..more are in the smaller calibers for certain. I have seen some that would be sub MOA..if they were in the hands of a competent shooter..in fact I have a couple that would shoot under that magic figure ..in someone else's hands...in fact I have a sub minute of deer Contender handgun..even in my hands 357 Max. I also have a Contender in 45-70 that is sub MOA with the first shot and sub minute of County with the 5th..but it is my fault. A friend from back in Md is a really good rifle shot..Pistol too..but he is numb from the neck up....heck maybe numb a couple of feet farther south for all I know. He shoots that 45-70 Contender really well.