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[skeet]

As to the sub MOA rifles..most are in peoples dreams. I do have a couple that are true sub MOA..more are in the smaller calibers for certain. I have seen some that would be sub MOA..if they were in the hands of a competent shooter..in fact I have a couple that would shoot under that magic figure ..in someone else's hands...in fact I have a sub minute of deer Contender handgun..even in my hands 357 Max. I also have a Contender in 45-70 that is sub MOA with the first shot and sub minute of County with the 5th..but it is my fault. A friend from back in Md is a really good rifle shot..Pistol too..but he is numb from the neck up....heck maybe numb a couple of feet farther south for all I know. He shoots that 45-70 Contender really well.

[dovehunter]

Originally Posted by skeet

As to the sub MOA rifles..most are in peoples dreams. ...

I will have to agree with you on that one, at least based on what I have seen. I have heard a lot of talk about this at my club's range. However, when you actually sneak a peak at folks' 100-yd. targets, it is rare indeed to see sub 1" groups as a regular thing. You do see them, just not as often as folks claim. I guess sometimes shooters are like fishermen in exaggerating sizes.