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Old 06-06-2010, 08:22 AM
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BP captures 6000 barrels of oil from leaking well

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6000 barrels? Wow I guess our problems are over, If we just forget about the 100,000 it missed, while it was getting the 6000.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:26 PM
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BP oly got about 6000 barrels of crude the first 24 hours. Keep in mind the cap has vents that are open so the pressure was reduced while they placed the cap over the head of the bop stack. They will capture a lot more when they feel it is safe to start closing the vents. I would want them to have whatever holddown device they have planned, securely in place before they start closing vents. If they don't have that accomplished, the cap will be blown off. Then how much crude will they save? They want to eliminate as much crude from the sea as possible, but they need to do it without loosing the cap or they will be continually screwed. I know everyone wamts to see the clean up move rapidly ahead, but to be successful, the source of the leak has to be stopped. I am glad it was in the spring because they may have the situation in hand before the fall migration of waterfowl occurs.
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Old 06-06-2010, 08:48 PM
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Oil and the environment

You know, Maybe I don't have a good handle on this but I have to say..we all want gasoline..cheaper gasoline too. These companies are drilling oil so we can drive our cars boats 4 wheelers and whatever else. I realize there are going to be accidents. Heck these companies don't want these problems. I guess I am trying to say..we all have to accept a little responsibility for this. And our great and wonderful gummit that does not allow oil drilling in shallower waters. If ths was at even 200 ft the problem would probably have been solved by now..but at a mile..we really can't work in person at that depth. I surely don't like seeing this kind of thing happen...and you know..more regulations are gonna cost US at the pump..just my take on it. Let the flames begin..but if ya flame me..don't drive yer SUV or pickup anymore LOL
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Old 06-07-2010, 01:09 PM
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We can't drill in shallow water because the rich and powerful who liveat ocean front do not want their pristine view of the ocean spoiled by thos ugly oil rigs, the same rigs that they probably own stock in. Guess they want their cake and eat it too.
We can't drill in the Gulf of Mexico but nobody's stopping the Chinese from doing so. What's with that?
The fact that we have more oil in the American west and Alaska than all the other nations in the world and the eckweenies and the government say we can't drill for it? WTF? TREASON sez I!
Most of the OPEC members are countries that do not like us very much. What if they vote to cut us off completely? Canada might not go along with it but Mexico is pissed at us right now because of Arizona. Seems to me that I recall the reason japan hit us at Pearl Harbor was because we would not sell them any more oil due to their aggression in the Pacific. Whether it was deliberate planing by Roosevelt to get us into the war or not is not part of the situation.
It's worth thinking about because if OPEC cuts us off, where do we get the oil we need to run our railroad, fuel our industry, what little we have left that hasn't gone over seas, or our ability to run to the store for groceries? What little gasoline and diesel left would be appropriated by Big brother in a heart beat and what was left severely rationed, that is if there was any left after the government grab. Just a coupleof things to think about.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:42 PM
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Paul...

You, of course, said it better than I...but pretty much what I was trying to say. Did you see the suit that is going to be filed by some OBSCURE indian tribe cause they don't want a wind generation farm off the coast of Massachusetts. As you say...WTF...Between the greenies and the left wing liberals..we can't do anything in this country to help the energy situation..except maybe buy electric/ gasoline Hybrids..which really do NOT help the environment..but ya won't hear that ya knowSo we exported all the ecologicallyincorrect jobs out of the US...And people wonder where the jobs went
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Old 06-08-2010, 09:25 AM
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Actually Skeet the one who privately opposes the Wind Farm off of coast of Mass is our Senior Senator John Live Shot Kerry. He has said it blocks the view off of his house on Nantucket.

This oil spill sure does suck for BP but more so for the folks on the Gulf coast. A lot of lively hoods will be effected. And I'm sue BP didn't want it happen.

Obama is trying to get some political points from all of this but don't believe its working.
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Old 06-08-2010, 10:38 AM
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Found in the newspaper. If you want someone to think you are going to do something about a problem; run around in circles, jump up and down and scream a lot, Obama must have read it also.
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Old 06-08-2010, 02:45 PM
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Actually those in the oil industry know that BP has a HORRIBLE safety record. A few years ago one of their plants on the gulf coast blew killing several dozen workers. That plant was allowed to reopen with over 400 safety violations that to this day it has not addressed. Thing about it is all the US goverment can do is fine them because they are British Petroleum, and are not based in this country. Amazingly enough the goverment wont even do that. BP is a joke in the gulf coast region as the worst of the worst, most oil field workers would rather starve than work for them because the conditions are so bad.

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Old 06-08-2010, 03:32 PM
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Actually Skeet the one who privately opposes the Wind Farm off of coast of Mass is our Senior Senator John Live Shot Kerry. He has said it blocks the view off of his house on Nantucket.

This oil spill sure does suck for BP but more so for the folks on the Gulf coast. A lot of lively hoods will be effected. And I'm sue BP didn't want it happen.

Obama is trying to get some political points from all of this but don't believe its working.
Bunch of people are complaining about their view. We have lots of wind farms out here and even if you do complain..it ain't gonna stop 'em from building... These things are supposed to be 3 miles off the coast. Far as I am concerned Kerry can stick it where the sun don't shine..:rolleye

As far as BP..they have plenty of people werkin..even if their safety record is terrible. If the gummit wanted to stop 'em from drilling they can do so..and stop 'em for safety as long as they are in the US controlled waters..up to 300 miles I think. As far as the worst record I think the Mex's are the worst....or so I have read. But remember..stuff do happen and it will happen long as people are doing it. They are actually only liable for up to 75 million in damages if I understand the law correctly. We'll see in the near future. Somebody will figure out how to stop this thing.. Or so I believe
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We do have a few wind farms in Maine. Its a little dishearting to go out to your favorite patch of woods and see a bunch of windmills on top of a mountain. Now don't flame me, my point is it ain't purtty but necessary. Like telephone poles, power lines, even plain windmills. Its progress.
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We are getting more and more big wind farms in West Texas. Personally I think the worldwide ventures in wind and solar technology are greatly behind where they SHOULD be at this point.

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Wind Generation

I do agree that they really aren't the prettiest things in the world..but neither are Nuc plants..coal generators oil refineries etc etc etc.. But they are necvessary in today's world. Heck there hasn't been a new oil refinery since about 1974. The NIMBYs all stop 'em. Heck there are places to build such things. Wind generators however are definitely obtrusive. But heck 3 miles off the coast?? But the point is if we can make electricity in any manner cheaply we should do it. I wanted to put a hydro electric setup in my irrigation canal..water flows through and makes elctricity..water board said it impeded the flow....It didn't(well maybe a tiny bit) and would not allow it. 6 months of the year the water flows through there at about 10 miles an hour.. Woulda been neat to get (free??) elctricity. As faar as what GOB said bout west Tx.. ha ain't just kidding. I wa down to San Angelo and holy cow..they have approx 500 sind generators around there.. They could park one up on top of my ridge in front of the house any day..They do pay rent ya know. Mo money
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Actually, I appreciate the words of concern, but some of you totally fail to see the full scope of this disaster and what has driven it to where it is and what is going on now.

First you need to understand the ecology of the marine eco system in the Gulf. With few exceptions there is no beachfront wonderful viewing areas in E Texas, LA, AL or W MS. The costal areas are marshland, bayous and bays where life in the Gulf starts, the birthplace of the small creatures. They are dead.

Waterfowl come to eat; there will be nothing for them to eat. They will die.

The currents of the Gulf are moving hundreds of thousands of barrels of oil, not north, but South, to the Keys of the state of Florida, the coral reefs of the Keys will die.

The base of the oyster, shrimp and scallop business in the US is in the north Gulf, it was stopped two weeks ago. The scallops, shrimp and oysters will die.

The brine shrimp, the little shrimp that feed the minnows hiding in the shore grass will die.

The economy of the entire Gulf coast will be affected. Some bank presidents I talk to say a great economic disaster is on the doorstep, no rentals, no tourists, no sea food sales, no real-estate sales, values plummeting, etc. Not Billions in loss, but Trillions with a T. From Mexico to Key West!!

Why? After the Exxon oil spill our Congress put a cap on the economic impact a spill could have on an oil company. That cap is 75 Million Dollars. Now if you have a bean counter and you have x number of wells and safety features at depth costs say 10 million each, how many wells do you not put proper safety devices on before you reach a positive number if you have one spill every 30 years? Come on, this is not hard. Putting something on the well even when you know it will not work, gives you plausible deniability, and prevents "Gross Negligence."

The responsible party is the Congress of the US. They receive millions from the oil industry whom they are supposed to police and in fact do not do so. The Congress not BP has screwed us.

I have a ringside seat. I live in probably the most beautiful spot on the water in all of the US. Yesterday the "tar balls" started washing up on the white quartz beaches here. The crystal clear water of all hues of blue and green are now full of brown/black oily globs. I live on the water, so I do not have to watch CNN or listen to some idiot tell me what is happening, I look off my back deck and watch the disaster unfold. The sea turtles dying, the dolphins dying, the sea cows dying, crabs dying, sea birds, great blue herons, snowy egrets and guys it really sucks to have been, as I was, a supporter of off shore drilling.

I feel like I have been violated in the worst way. Totally screwed and not a kiss one.

BP has been running around here like a chicken with its head cut off, not a clue what to do. Now there are dozens of class action laws suits that have been filed claiming Gross Negligence, the willful and wanton disregard of....... This week BP has started paying claims and acting like someone with a plan, besides writing a 75 million check to a fund and just walking away, which is exactly what I think they thought they were going to do.

If you had no idea the Obama was a joke before, just listen to a dumb Chicago A. H. run his stupid foul mouth now. Maybe he will fly to London and ask BP to play nice. Perhaps he will get a commitment for a new BP station in Chicago, with his influence.
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