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				50gn-55gn soft points on Prairie Dogs?
			 
			
			
			I'm planing a trip to S.D. early this summer to do a little Prairie dog shooting, but I'm having trouble finding the bullets to do so. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	I was hoping to use 50gn-55gn v-max's for the loads, but I either (A.) Can't find them in stock (I need 2,5k-3k) or (B.) If I do find them, they are $$$$. I'm open to alternatives, and have been looking at the "House Brands" from Midway and Midsouth...but they are soft points....Will these bullets work well on prairie dogs in a .223 & a 22-250??? Thanks! Tall Shadow  | 
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			Remington has some low cost varmint bullets, like their plhp bullets, not quite as explosive as V-max`s but they still mist good,and they are a lot cheaper. check www.natchezss.com also.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Don't want to sound negative but you are looking at $360 for Vmax bullets in the quantity you need. Sounds like a lot....wait til you figure out what gas @ $3/gl. is going to cost you to go from Detroit to Mobridge and back.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 Well I did already figure in the cost of the gas + it's getting split 3-4 ways. But It's still aggravating that, even with budgeting in the mandatory 15%-20% extra, that one must budget into anything to prepare for the unexpected expenses, I'm still struggling trying to get projectiles... ![]() HPBTMTCH: Thanks for the tip on the Remingtons! I will give them a try! Tall Shadow  | 
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			I haven't priced them recently but a slightly lower cost alternative is the Speer TNTs. In all of my 22 cals they were as accurate as Vmaxs.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			Tall Shadow, I just replied to your post in the Reloading forum.  Good luck with your trip, if you try my advice. let me know how they turn out.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I agree with skb2706. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The TNT's may not be consdiered a "premium" bullet, but they've always worked well for me. Granted, i use them in .243win, but a friend of mine uses them in his 22-250. That or some of the hornady's, I used to absolutely _LOVE_ their SXSP bullets, but they've either been discontinued, or severly cutback in the calibers they are produced in.  | 
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			The TNT bullets are hard to find. They are expensive if you do find them
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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			I checked around locally, the problem with TNT's isnt gettign them in, it's keeping them in stock, they sell like hotcakes at IHOP on sunday morning. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Prices that i have found seem normal, but not in the quantities that Tallshadow wants. When i asked about those quantities, I was told that they 3 guys here local, who used those amounts, but the three got togeather and started doing a group-buy (15K-20K bullets) at a time, usually once a year. Don't know if that helps you on not, especially on short notice, but it might be somethign to consider for the future.  | 
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			In stock at Midway they have lots of 1000 Speer 50 gr. TNTs for $91.99 - Item #108963 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	It is doubtful that you find a better price on a name brand bullet that does what you want anytime soon. You can of course buy in with others on a group buy and get a better deal. Shooting pds is not a cheap hobby and like most anything else you gotta pay.....  | 
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			I'm also from Michigan as well. I'll be heading to SD for some PD hunting as well. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Check out Midsouthshootersupply.com and look at there Varmint Nightmare bullets. I believe they're currently out of stock which I know won't help you, but when they're in stock. Look at the prices. 2000-$115. Can't beat that. I got in on a group buy on another forum. They did a Hornady group buy. Me and another guy in MI went in together on the GB. 5500 50gr vmax was $510 shipped. Then we just split them up evenly. I'll be loading about 4000rds of .223 when I head out + all the other cals I'm working on. Hope this kind of helps. Mike  | 
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