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			sorry i screwed up the thread name i was going for vmas bullet. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
	i was just thinking along the lines of a 30 gr vmax at 2300 has got to be better for hogs than a 17 gr at 2500. (despite the KE formula) yes i too have seen them take a hard hit and keep on truckin, back when i was good with a 22, one took off from my feet, i hit him 4 times out of five before he stopped making progress kt  | 
		
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